>  >-My 8500 SCSI HD is Bus 0, ID 0 and CD-ROM ID 3
>>-External Zip on Bus1, ID 6
>>-ATA Maxtor at last check was on Bus 2, ID 2 (according to ASP and
>>Drive Setup) but ID, 0 according to SCSI Probe. I'm quite sure it was
>>ID'd as "0" by ASP back when I first installed it, too. I could not
>>find jumper settings yesterday that would give it a ID of "0" by
>>ASP. I want it set as a master. Nothing else is connected to that
>>ATA bus.


Adrian wrote:
>Some thoughts
>
>So bus zero is the internal bus and has two drives. Bus one has only the
>zip drive.

Yes, the internal SCSI bus has a one GB HD and CD-ROM

>Bus two is through a PCI card with one ATA/IDE drive.

Correct

>Have you tried the Interface card in different slots?

Please understand that everything was working fine for almost three 
months. I switched between the two drives as the start up drive 
several times early on until I just stayed on the new Maxtor with a 
new 9.1 installed up until a crash which made me decide to try and go 
back to my older drive with 8.6 which had given me virtually no 
problems for a long time. The Ultratek 66 card worked in every slot 
but I have three PCI cards assigned in a particular order because my 
newer USB card (installed about the same time) would only work 
correctly in the top slot. I really have no reason to suspect the ATA 
card.

>  How is termination
>handled. On the drive or the card or is there a potential for both to be
>terminated ?

Don't really know, that is part of what I was asking, too. It was my 
understanding that  an ATA card, especially with only one drive 
connected doesn't have termination issues like a real SCSI bus.

>  Also might a jumper on the card be changing the drive ID ?

There are no jumpers on the card and even if there were, nothing was 
changed to precipitate the problem. I did, however, switch the Maxtor 
HD connector cable to the second of two available connectors on the 
card but only well after the problems persisted. I suspect selecting 
one connector over the other could change the drive ID.

>
>What does the Maxtor do when you boot with the shift key down ?

Don't know can't do it.
The Maxtor has not been seen by the computer other than as an 
unmounted (and so far unmountable) drive since it disappeared earlier 
this week. As of late yesterday after attempting to mount it and a 
resulting crash, my computer will not boot correctly either from my 
SCSI HD or from a CD as long as the HD power connector is attached to 
the back of the Maxtor. It may look like everything is loading OK but 
after the extensions the screen goes to a blank desktop pattern with 
only a cursor. Can't power down or do anything. If I am trying to 
boot from  a system CD I get to the desktop pattern with the 
date/time clock (stuck at whatever the boot time was) and the little 
watch cursor...indefinitely. If I disconnect power to the Maxtor  I 
can boot off my SCSI or a CD and everything works fine.

I started this reply two hours ago but stopped and did a battery of 
new tests and all the basics, PRAM and even CUDA reset. Swapped to 
the other (originally used) connector on the Ultratek.  No change.

Mike

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