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A couple of other thoughts.
 
I downloaded a trial copy of Pagemaker 7 so I could check out a copy of things.
 
1. The Distiller PPD for Acrobat 5 appears to be installed in the RSRC folder by default (hooray!!!).
 
2. Goofy PM, however, doesn't allow one to print a composite gray. The program's idea of printing colors as black is to take text and objects created in PM and print them as black. The program doesn't know how to take a bitmap image (photo) and print it in grayscale.
 
3. That said, the instructions I provided you earlier will give you a CMYK PDF file which can...
 
...either be converted to grayscale in Pitstop, or printed as a composite grayscale if your PS rip allows that choice.
 
4. I would not use PM 6.52 at this point. I would either upgrade to v 7.x, or try InDesign which is supposed to open PM docs. InDesign does allow for the printing of a composite grayscale PDF (I tried it...it works).
 
If the skies are gray, you're probably as tired as I am about talking about grayscale.
 
Have a nice day.
 
Rich


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Tadlock
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PDF] More on RGB photos

Hmmm. I did use the Adobe Distiller print driver (5.05) and the Distiller PPD(version 2017.801) to create the PDF I sent you. I'm sure the PPD was in the right location. I created the postscript first, then processed it through Distiller. I did have to process each page separately in order to make the PDF, then I inserted the pages together into the single file I passed on to you. Maybe that's why it appeared to be redistilled?
 
I did select "Print colors to black" on the Pagemaker print window and I also set the Distiller print driver to black and white as the default setting before making the file. Neither one was overriding the RGB photo information when the PDF went through the imagesetter RIP. The person also used Microsoft Photo Editor to work with the photos and we think that might have caused problems too. We did make a composite grayscale film but some of the images started picking up slight background shading when the composite was made.
 
The Pagemaker file itself was huge - about 16 MB and clued me in I was going to have problems right away. The Postscript file was coming out at 62 MB so I thought the 15 MB PDF looked good. We didn't have time to stop and rebuild the file that way it should have been done and change all the photos to grayscale and re-insert them. The person creating the file uses Pagemaker three times a year just to create this file so I'm sure there were many other problems with the file. We were in crisis mode and just trying to get something that would print.
 
The two suggestions were:
 
Create an action in Pitstop to change images to grayscale.
 
Create a Job Options profile for Pagemaker in Distiller that uses the Press setting with all DSC comments turned off.
 
I've created a file using both methods and am waiting for the pre-press area to check the files.
 
Thanks very much to both Dov and Rich for taking the time to look at the file. I appreciate the time and the suggestions.
 
And yes - Bellingham is beautiful for about 7 months of the year but right now we're in the gray, soggy season that drives people mad. I long for sun  - we might get lucky today.

Kathy Tadlock
Support Services, Publishing Services
Western Washington University
Bellingham, WA   98225-9058
Phone (360)650-3545
Fax (360)650-7436
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