When I ask for a "full frame" 8x10 at my local store, I always expect a 6.66x10, I always get a 8x12 instead. If I want it in an 8x10 frame, I need to crop it...
Stan on 11/04/03 6:56 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: >>>> And, most any skilled 35mm machine printer (person) can control >>>> the machine to print full-frame. Looks like a letter-boxed TV show. >>> >>> Well, no. It doesn't matter what the skill level is, most all machines crop >>> the negative to some extent, and nothing can be done about it. >> >> That's odd. >> I can go to Cord and get prints made full-frame just by asking >> that they be printed that way. > > Any skilled operator on any machine? On particular models? > On paricular models with certain non-standard lenses installed? > On most machines? > > One of the big things that chased me from budget bulk processing > to professional labs was the unwanted cropping. Along the way I > tried one-hour processing. Nobody could give me the full frame. > One operator at a Ritz spent forty minutes trying to give me just > a little bit more than was on his first try, and still didn't get > very close to the edges -- just barely got all of the subject's > face on the print. At a Wal-Mart they gave me a lot less than > the bulk labs did. My favourite CVS (drug store) operator bugged > the regional service tech about it and was told that it could > be done, but not with the set of lenses currently installed in > their machine. > > The pro lab I usually use gives me damned near the full frame, > but not _quite_. Close enough that I'm usually happy with it, > and when it's not enough, at least the option of getting the > frame printed in its entirety on an enlarger is available right > there for a little more money. (The other pro lab I use doesn't > do machine prints at all -- enlarger only. Which costs more, > but they do _amazing_ things with my TMZ negs.) > > The machine my lab uses, set up the way they've got it set up, > pretty much gives me what I see in the viewfinder. You have to > look pretty close to see where anything's missing. But the last > time I measured, yeah, a tiny wee sliver was missing from the > print. > > I'm not saying you're wrong about the prints you get from Cord. > I'm just saying that with at least some machines (and the > _impression_ I get is that it's _most_ machines), complete full > frame prints aren't possible. GIven how nitpicky the folks at > my lab are about quality control, I trust them to know their > machines. Perhaps Cord uses a machine I haven't run into so > far, or perhaps they've got it set up differently in order to > be able to run full-frame prints. > > Caveat: I'm not a lab expert; this is all info I've gathered > on the customer side of the counter. > > -- Glenn > >
