On 20 Dec 2005 at 16:39, Rob Studdert wrote:

> On 19 Dec 2005 at 23:36, graywolf wrote:
> 
> > Didn't say anything about remapping colors, Rob, I said "assumes". What 
> > I meant by that is the browsers display photos as if they were sRGB no 
> > matter what you saved them as. If you did not save them as sRGB they 
> > will be misdisplayed. sRGB images look pretty much the same in my 
> > browsers as they do in Photoshop.
> 
> All that says to me is that your monitor is close to sRGB or that your PS 
> colour work-space is set to your monitor profile. A non-CS aware Browser 
> simply
> outputs the RAW RGB data to the screen driver so the colour space will be
> whatever the device colour space is, if that's sRGB then that's what it will 
> be
> but it it isn't it won't be sRGB. My monitor (device profile) isn't sRGB so
> images mapped to sRGB look do look slightly different in my Browser.

I just made a screen dump to illustrate the above, I opened the two sRGB files 
in PS, the one with the embedded sRGB I let open using the embedded CS, the one 
without I applied my monitor (device) CS profile. I then opened the web page in 
my Browser and placed it on top of the PS window, I then made a screen capture 
which I pasted into PS using my monitor profile, cropped it, converted it to 
sRGB and posted it to my web site.

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/colourspaces.jpg (~275kB)

What can be deduced from this image is that my Browser fails to display the 
files with embedded profiles correctly and when the Browser view is compared to 
the file imported into PS as sRGB (bottom left) it's very slightly less 
saturated than the file imported using the device profile my Browser doesn't 
actually even render sRGB correctly. 

If I wanted it to render sRGB correctly in my Browser I'd have to compromise on 
my whole systems colour calibration by calibrating my screen to sRGB. So if I 
want to properly scrutinize any image I down-load it and open it in a colour 
aware application.

Two pretty practical raves re color spaces can be seen here:

http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/
http://www.smugmug.com/help/srgb-versus-adobe-rgb-1998

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
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