I'm not as old as I thought, I learned to program on a CRT, (My last assignment, for extra credit, had to be submitted on *Hollerith Cards, ages more advanced than paper tape.*

Tom C wrote:

Just need to ask... how many indoor bathrooms were in the world when you were born? Inquiring minds want to know!

We saved our programs in high school on paper tape and entered them at the teletype. DEC10.

Tom C.






From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 12:06:07 -0400

Hey, Shel, would you copy my 8" floppies to DVD for me? And I've got a half dozen 1/4" 512mb SCSI tape cartridges that I would like to have copied too... Oh, yes, about 150 3.5 inch floppies as well; my floppy drive died last year and I do not feel it is worth $5 to replace it although I may get around to pulling it out of the machine sometime real soon now.

PS: Anybody got a paper tape reader I could borrow, and a PDP7 to hook it up to? Anyone else out there realize that in 30 years we have gone from teletype machines and paper type to 30" LCD's and 500gb hard drives on personal computers? When I was born there was one one* electronic computer in the world.

* Just googled it, apparently I was wrong, there were two working non-programmable EC's, and one programmable EC under construction.


Humm...? That makes me think. The two modern conveniences I would not want to give up are the indoor bathroom, and the personal computer.

graywolf
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:

A more powerful machine doesn't necessarily mean a machine that's more
complicated to operate. While it's true that new programs may require a bit of time to learn, it seems that many, especially those designed for the
average user, aren't that difficult to figure out, especially if you've
used earlier versions of the same or similar programs. Granted, for some programs and for some people, taking a class or reading a well written book
may be helpful.

As for compatibility, I've solved that problem. I keep an older machine in
running condition, plus, when I get a new machine, I add slots or older
media. The latest machine here takes the old 3.5 floppy disks, but also has a CD player and burner and a DVD player and burner, as well as USB and Firewire ports. I'm still using WordPerfect 6.1 and Lotus 2.01 as well as
the latest version of Photoshop.

Compatibility is available for those who seek it.  However, one cannot
blindly go into CompUSA or some such and buy a computer "off the shelf"
without doing their homework.  People go to Consumer's Reports and read
about refrigerators and toasters, buy car magazines to learn about the new cars they are considering, and in general do their homework to some degree.
Buying a computer is no different in that regard.

Shel


[Original Message]
From: Malcolm Smith


For once, my sympathies lie with the public. Operating systems over the years have made it become simpler and simpler to operate computers and yet to keep up with technology, you need a more powerful machine, which folk
know less and less about. As folk update hardware, their need to 'know

how'

to work it becomes more unnecessary, along with the fact that the storage methods used on previous machines aren't brought forward or are superseded on the new. I know lots of people with floppy discs, zip discs or CDs with their pictures stored on them, which their new machines can't access. How

do

you expect the non-technical average user to buy into a new system and
method of storage, when every few years it's been superseded and been made
obsolete? You used to take film pictures and put the results in the

drawer.

Now you have much more convenience on taking and sharing those images, but
for most people long term storage is an unknown - even when they try.











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