Thanks Jack. Instinctively, I shot it as a vertical. But as you can see, there was a garbage can a left, so I had to crop it horizontal. But that gives us a tighter image area in which to count pixels:-). Paul On Dec 31, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Obviously, no tougher test than ISO 1600 in fading light against a > shadowy darkish blotched background. > If this is an example of how bad it can get..I'm certainly OK with it. > I, also, appreciate your choice of subjects, Paul. 8-) > > Jack > --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> A bit more exposure would have helped with the noise, but I was >> running out of light. I was shooting wide open at 200mm at only >> 1/60th, ISO 1600. It was almost dark. So no exposure comp. What's >> more, this is a pretty extreme crop. It's a compromise in other >> words. Probably not worth showing, but I've been impressed with the >> continuous autofocus of this camera and wanted to show an example. >> And an example with pretty girls is better than almost any other kind >> >> of example I can think of:-). >> Paul >> On Dec 31, 2006, at 11:27 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> >>> There's a lot of what I'd call shadow noise in places were there >>> aren't >>> much in the way of shadows. Maybe you should have biased a bit in >> >>> favor >>> of over exposure to try to eliminate that. >>> >>> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>> Yes, I'm moving toward a second K10D as well. The D is nice, but >> not >>>> as nice as the K10. This shot looks a bit too thin, but that's >>>> because I processed it on my laptop without a calibrated monitor. >> (I >>>> subsequently looked at it on my work computer.) I have a tough >> time >>>> getting exposures right on the laptop, but I still use it when I >>>> don't have time to get down to the work computer. I can't >> calibrate >>>> the monitor on the laptop, because I don't have administrator >>>> privileges. However, the IT guy at work has promised to install >> the >>>> Spider 2 software for me when we go back after the holidays. So >> bear >>>> with me until then:-). >>>> Paul >>>> On Dec 30, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I agree: I like the rendering at ISO 1600 and 800, while the DS >> body >>>>> is just a hair smoother the K10D gives a nicer texturing. But I >> tend >>>>> to push the values down a bit more for a deeper look. >>>>> >>>>> The K10D is taking over as my standard camera now, I'm thrilled >> with >>>>> it. I think all the others I've got are going on the market and >> I'll >>>>> get a second K10D body for backup. Only a couple of film cameras >> >>>>> will >>>>> remain for nostalgia and occasional fun, and the Fuji F30 for a >>>>> pocketable besides it. >>>>> >>>>> Godfrey >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 30, 2006, at 5:50 PM, George Sinos wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The more I use the K10d the more I like the "look" of it's >> images. >>>>>> Even though there is some noise in this photo, it's not >> obscuring >>>>>> detail. For instance, the hair of the girl on the right against >> >>>>>> the >>>>>> brick wall. The noise reminds me more of film grain than >> digital >>>>>> noise. I think the Pentax engineers hit it on the nose. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ISO 1600 in Tva mode. >>>>>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5390592&size=lg >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. >>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
