Bob if you do get here in the fall, you will understand what Dan and I
are saying about this...
One thing about the cars is that the traffic can be so bad that they are
scarcely moving - sometimes at a total
standstill so a pedestrian can cross the street without fear :) but the
cyclists then weave in and out of the cars
and , as I said before, if you are walking you cant hear them and they
go so fast if you look in one direction and
are clear they might be there in a flash when you look in the other...
They even cycle at night without lights or reflector The courteous and
safe have bells to jingle and lights so you can
see them at night, but there are far to many who are way reckless.
Would love the private cars to go too, as I said earlier.
ann - frankly scared of 'em
Bob W wrote:
that sounds like a good idea. Wish they'd do that in London.
There are lots of things the city is trying ot do. One proposal is to
ban all private vehicle from Midtown and to restrict trucks to
off-peak hours.
Large stretches of Broadway are now pedetrian mall, with tables and
chair set up right in the middle of the street:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070283
Dan
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Bob W <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
Of
Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, I do believe that if bikes cause safety problems, all bikes
should be force to follow reasonable rules.
I have been to London more than once. London may be a city, but it
is
in England, and the drivers and cyclists drive like Englishmen, not
like New Yorkers. London taxis are driven by sane, courteous men
and
women. New York cab drivers think they are in a demolition derby.
Sounds like the drivers are at least as much of a problem as the
cyclists.
What do you propose to do about them?
B
London Cyclists seem to value their own lives; some of the cyclists
in New York appear to be daring someone to hit them with a car
(preferably a limo).
Amsterdam has the heaviest bike traffic I have ever seen. The bikes
move fast, but they move together in large groups, and in a very
orderly fashion.
The bottom line is that different circumstances require different
rules.
Dan
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because
some
cyclists break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe
behaviour? How about if all motorists were forced into unsafe
behaviour
because some of them break the law?
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