Having nominated Bill for a "Mark!", I don't agree with him. Over the summer I posted a view from a New Hampshire peak. I got lots of interesting and useful comments, and one list member manipulated the photo in LR and posted a version much better than mine. I learned a lot from that--it is this group at its best.
When a pic falls short, I want to know why. Several people here are gratifyingly, constructively critical. When I have a pic that works, it's nice to be told so, and also be told =why= people think it works. Many listers are good at that, too. What I don't like is getting no comments on a photo at all. If it's "an excruciatingly boring, poor rendering of a banal and cliched subject" I'd like to know that. If it's technically great but the subject is lacking, or vice versa, I'd like to know that, too. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW ----- Original Message ----- From: William Robb <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Cc: Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Giving and taking criticism On 25/11/2011 2:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > One thing I haven't seen a lot of is discussion on how to give and take > criticism. And a related discussion of what venues on the net, or off, are good for that sort of discussion. > > -- > That's because we don't offer criticism here. We had a regular member who attempted it one time; he was promptly chased off the island. It put a very real chill on the entire concept of giving an honest critique of images that get shown here, since any honest critique will likely have some criticism accompanying it (that being what the word critique kind of come from.) I tried to give a critique one time and was told to accept the photograph on it's own merits, and either accept it for what it was or STFU. And now you know why most every photograph that is shown here, whether it be a stunning landscape or a tedious snapshot of a child playing with a kitten gets, more or less, the same response (great capture, stunning image, etc) or no comment at all. Most people don't want a critique, they want an ego massage, and no one likes to be told that their image is an excruciatingly boring, poor rendering of a banal and cliched subject. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
