I have to agree I much preferred the old fashioned takeup spool on my 
Spotmatic.

At 01:58 PM 3/6/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Clive,
>
>I'd venture to say that more people have had trouble with those
>squirrely "Magic Needles" than they currently do with the MZ
>autoloading. I have done both for many years and have only had 2 or 3
>bad loads on the automatic system and many more than that on the
>"Magic Needles". In fact, my old Nikon FM was far easier to load than
>the "Magic Needles." As you can probably tell, I am not a fan of those
>"Magic Needles."
>
>Bruce Dayton
>
>
>
>Wednesday, March 06, 2002, 1:38:28 PM, you wrote:
>
> >snip<
>
>CW> Contrast this with the 'easy, automatic' loading of my MZ-5n,
>CW> which frequently takes several attempts to get the leader to
>CW> engage properly. Another example of Shel's Unnecessary Automation
>CW> (TM).  <g>
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