I agree, George, and I used the built-in wireless features for a
couple of years, but I found serious shortcomings and eventually gave
it up.

You seem to be suggesting that you are able to control two flashes in
P-TTL from the popup. True? I could _never_ get that to work at all.
Either one remote flash would fire or neither.

Re light adjustment: you're talking about bumping the remote's output
by +1 through -2 stops from the camera's menu, right? But this would
adjust both remote flashes by the same amount. That's almost never
useful for me; individual control is generally what's needed.

I really hear you about the climbing up to or lowering flashes to
adjust them. It's even worse if they're inside an umbrella-style
softbox: lower stand, rip velcro, reach in and adjust flash, reattach
velcro, raise stand. Ugh.

But my answer is to start with a basic pose, create the lighting
arrangement, establish the base levels at that point using the flash
meter, then start shooting. I avoid the temptation to make minor light
tweaks until I decide to radically change the pose, say from 3/4 to
silhouette. Any minor light differences from subject movement can be
fixed by dodge/burn in post. Adjusting the lights while shooting is
similar to excessive chimping -- a sure buzzkill.

A great answer to no modelling light is to use an LED video light. You
can walk around with it handheld until you find the right spot, then
move your flash into that position. Or even mount the LEDs into the
light modifier along with the flash using a double shoe.

If you are deep into studying subtle lighting variations, you might
want to consider high power CFLs (45 watts and up). With a cheap AC
umbrella adapter they can be used with umbrellas and umbrella-style
softboxes, like the Westcott Apollo. True WYSIWYG and don't get too
hot.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, George Sinos <gsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been working with a two flashes trying to improve my portrait
> skills for a while.  I have to say the ability to adjust the flashes
> from the camera position, either in TTL or Manual,  is much more than
> a convenience for me.
>
> Since the flash units don't have modeling lights I really like the
> ability to make small changes in the light output to accommodate a
> small pose change.  Also, the flash may be high up on a stand with the
> control panel out of reach or out of sight.  An adjustment would
> either require climbing a ladder or lowering the light stand then
> trying to return it to the same position.  All the while the subject
> is sitting there getting out of the mood.
>
> Using the built-in flash in the 'command only" mode was a brilliant
> design move.  That allows amateurs on a budget to slowly move into
> remote flash control without buying extra equipment.  I think that
> feature is under appreciated by many.
>
> Nikon works slightly better than Pentax for this, but both work well.
> Canon is just now figuring out that remote flash is valuable and has
> started to put those features into some of their equipment.
>
> Everyone doesn't work the same way, and I wouldn't suggest that they
> should. But for me this method work pretty well.
>
> gs
>
>
>
>
>
>
> George Sinos
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>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:07:23PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>> I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very
>>> much more affordable here than the Pentax 540.
>>
>> I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz.  A few things are more
>> awkward than they should be, like adjusting power in manual mode.
>>
>> I'm seriously looking at one of those midwest photo lumopros as a
>> manual backup to the Metz.  If I'm using multiple strobes I'm not
>> going to be shooting in TTL mode anyways.
>>
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