Seen some of Doug's shots on FB.

I must  say the Fujifilm X-Pro 1 is looking rather good. Everyone seems to 
love it.  Pricey than what I was planning to spend on a camera body, but...

Anyway,  still researching...

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated  9/7/2013 11:45:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com  writes:
Marnie,
If you get a chance, you should see what Doug Brewer is  posting with a
Fujifilm X100 over on Google+.  I know it's a bit like  saying it's the
pots and not the chef after a fine meal, but his photos are  really
great with the little rangefinder.
Regards,  Bob S.

On  Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> Marnie,
>
> That's a very tricky question to  ask.
>
> Consider these points (in rather random order as they pop  in my head)
>
> 1. There're three major directions if you will that  you might want to
> consider:
>
> a. Image quality. Here the  bigger sensor generally means more room for
> getting more interesting  images, as you will be extracting more from the
> light and DOF that your  scene provides.
>
> b. Convenience/size. Personally I opted for this  one and did not loose in
> the IQ dept.
>
> c.  Ergonomics/AF/measuring/system/etc. These are things that are 
important,
>  but from somewhat different point of view. E.g. if your camera has  
somewhat
> slower or less predictable AF, you can still master it and get  excellent
> photographs. Or if you choose a camera system that offers  excellent flash
> integration, this can be a deal maker if you plan to  shoot with flash a 
lot.
>
> 2. Like I said - I decided to ditch  pretty much everything - AF, shake
> reduction, etc. I am 100% happy with  my Ricoh GXR system, two AF modules 
and
> two Leica M-mount modules for  which I have two Voigtlander lenses (40/1.4
> and 15/4.5) and few Pentax  lenses that I mount via adapter. This is very
> light, very pleasant to  use and I am perfectly happy with IQ. The AF of 
AF
> modules is rather  slow but accurate though...
>
> Now, I would advise against Pentax.  Why? Well, at least so that this 
opinion
> is stated, you know :-). You  see, Pentax is DSLR system (sans K-01, but
> that's an odd and  discontinued camera). Which means that it will be 
bulkier
> than  mirrorless. It in fact is less bulky than say Nikon D600 but bulky
>  nonetheless. So you kind of get drawbacks of both bulkiness and lack of  
FF.
> Even if some would argue that FF is in fact Fool's Frame, not having  this
> option to begin with is a system drawback in my  opinion.
>
> So you can either buy into Nikon or Canon, where Nikon  is a bit cooler
> geek-factor-wise because you can mount cropped lenses on  FF body and it 
will
> automatically adjust the sensor to capture what can  be captured. And 
Nikon
> has excellent flash system. But Nikon is probably  even bigger than Canon 
in
> terms of bulk. The D700 with 24-70/2.8 and a  flash is pretty much a
> weight-lifting device that by the way happens to  take pictures :-).
>
> However you don't have to stay in DSLR land.  You have excellent systems 
to
> choose from - Fuji, like it has been  stated, m43, though with slightly
> smaller frame is very competent, Sony  Nex is also a force to be reckoned
> with. Or you can even buy yourself a  number of big-sensor-fixed-lens
> cameras, such as Fuji X100(s) or Sigma  DP (several of them with different
> focal lengths).
>
> I  should also point out my own strategy - Leica M-mount lenses or select
>  lenses of other manufacturers, notably Pentax A 50/1.2 or FA 77/1.8 via
>  quality adapter, and cameras can be chosen pretty much at will according 
 to
> current market situation.
>
> I wish I lived in US of A,  where I could walk into a store and actually 
take
> advantage of display  units...
>
> Boris
>
>
>
>
>
>  On 9/6/2013 9:15 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Second  party? Third party? Not sure what to call  it.
>>
>> I am  just about to sell my Canon camera, and only have one lens left   
too.
>> Mainly due to a financial crunch and needing the money. (Boy,  it will be
>> ODD not to have a camera. Had one or two since  2001.)
>>
>> I expect my  financial situation to ease  next month. So I thought, okay,
>> time to switch  systems  again.
>>
>> I really liked the Canon lenses I ended up  with:   good color, 
sharpness,
>> and focal lengths. I had  one L glass.
>>
>> BUT.. the  Canon system is a  wide-mouthed mount, and the lenses tend to 
be
>> heavy. Being   female, as I get older I am losing upper body strength, 
and
>>  I
>> just want  something lighter.
>>
>> I COULD  switch back to Pentax. But not the K-5, I like  spending $400  
or
>> so
>> on a camera, $600 max.
>>
>>  Truthfully the camera body  doesn't matter that much to me, they all  do
>> similar things now. Good resolution,  ability to shoot  video, and some
>> low-light capability is good enough for me.   Once I learn a body, I 
pretty
>> much
>> forget about it when  I shoot anyway.
>>
>> I am much more interested in LENSES.  Especially zooms, I haven't had any
>> primes for a long time now. I  will probably start with two lenses (what 
I
>> usually do), and then  work up from there.
>>
>> I've considered mirror-less,   but I really need a viewfinder. I've also
>> considered micro 3/4. I  am  OPEN.
>>
>> A great many of you now have second or  third party camera systems  now.
>> Like the Sony  NEX.
>>
>> 1. If you have a second (or third party)  system  what has been your
>> experience with it? What do you like  about it? Dislike about  it?
>>
>> 2. What lenses (zooms  in particular) do you like/dislike?
>>
>> 3.  If you are  a die-hard Pentax fan, and feel compelled to recommend
>> Pentax to  me,  ;-), which of the smaller bodies would you suggest?
>>  Likes/dislikes?
>>
>> 4.  What zooms would you  recommend?
>>
>> I tried to be brief so you won't have  too  much to read, but it's hard.
>>
>> Marnie aka Doe  :-)  I When I thought  about making a decision, I though,
>>  heck, ask on PDML and get some experienced  input. Then I can find  a
>> store, go
>> in and hold some cameras, and go from  there.
>>
>>
>
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