Reply interspersed. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Bob W <p...@web-options.com> wrote: > I wasn't responding to her specific case, but to your homely little saying, > which implies acceptance of victimhood. In her case I wouldn't put the > success of my business in the hands of an organisation like Facebook.
Indeed. I don't have FB acct and I don't plan on opening one, though I don't have any business to work on anyway. > The point of my examples is that you do not need to fight these things on > your own. > > If you are subject to this kind of treatment then you either have the law of > your country to protect you, or you enrol the help of other people, like the > people - adults - who start things like Reclaim the Streets. > > In this country we have laws against workplace bullying and discrimination on > the grounds of age. These laws weren't enacted by the bullies, they were > enacted by people who came together to resist the bullies. My point is that in situations such as this you're faced with the choice and that choice is a very non-trivial one. Other than that - I totally agree. > See above. Nothing gets changed unless you yourself do something about it, > and as an adult the way to do that is to cooperate with other people to bring > about change. Your philosophy leads to serfdom. You seem to accept the > position of the victim, then try to justify it. Then you misunderstood me, Bob. Like I said above - whenever I have a choice to make, I tend to weigh different arguments and make a decision. In very simple terms, sometimes I choose to fight, and sometimes I choose not to. I don't care as to which "dom" it groups me with, as long as it is not martyrdom. > She chose to go with Facebook, and to bet her business on it. If she doesn't > like it she can either try and change it, or leave, or shut up. It's her > responsibility That's pretty much what I've been saying all along. The write a blog post and shout "wolf" is not any of the above, in my view. >> Ultimately, you're right - the bullies must be stood up against, however I >> think you would agree with me that it is not just black or just white in >> real grown up life. > > No, I don't agree with you. It's very a propos right now that they're burying > Mandela, a real grown-up who took a different view from yours. If you suggest that I'm not a real grown-up, then I would suppose you're trying to bully me. This is both unprovoked and unwelcome. Beside these points, we seem to have reached the conclusion of our sub-thread. Beside that very last point above, it's been a pleasure, as always. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
