Do you think the hackers will be killing 1.24 million people per year? http://www.who.int/gho/road_safety/mortality/en/
B > On 31 Aug 2015, at 15:10, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On the whole, that's an exceedingly bad idea. Whose time is coming. I'm > likely won't be around to see it. With computer controlled anti lock breaks, > and computer controlled cruse control, and most every modern car having it's > owned assigned IP address it's only a matter of time before we have the first > recorded homicide by hacking a cars cpu(s) and network. The more control the > computer in the car has the more control a hacker can achieve. That's > assuming there aren't gross errors in the programming to begin with. > > On 8/31/2015 2:07 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> P.s. I think that in 10-15 years time we'll be seeing moves to make it >> illegal for humans to drive cars. >> >> When self-driving cars start appearing on our roads they will be so much >> safer than human-driven ones that it will be difficult to argue against. For >> example, why would a boy-racer ever give way to a self-driving >> ('automobile'!) car, knowing that it will always give way? >> >> I don't think the few petrol-heads who'll be left will be too bothered about >> it either. Half the fun of current cars comes from the sound of the engine, >> and the direct relationship between the controls and movement of the car. As >> drive-by-wire and silent, or artificial sound, cars come along that direct >> connection is lost along with the feelings of control and exercise of skill >> that makes driving so much fun. >> >> >From the point of view of cities this will be a good thing. We'll be able >> >to get rid of most of the street signs and similar car-related street >> >furniture that is so disfiguring of beautiful architecture, and it will >> >reduce congestion. >> >> If you think digital cameras have been revolutionary, you ain't seen nothin' >> yet. >> >> B >> >> >> >>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 05:48, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote: >>> >>> I like driving. The last car I owned was an MG B Roadster, but the times I >>> got to actually enjoy it were so few and far between that the hassles >>> massively outweighed the pleasures. Utility driving - which is probably 99% >>> of car use for most people - is just a huge pain in the arse. >>> >>> And as for the countryside, it is of course mass car use that is destroying >>> it - the pleasure of driving in it has a high cost. I get far more >>> enjoyment from cycling and walking in the countryside than I ever did from >>> driving in it >>> >>> B >>> >>> >>>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 01:00, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I find driving a car, especially a well handling, responsive car, to be >>>> almost therapeutic and a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside - >>>> can't put a dollar value on that. >>>> >>>> Kenneth Waller >>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob W-PDML" <p...@web-options.com> >>>> Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith <rrve...@virginmedia.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob W wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Owning a car is a modern form of slavery. Getting rid of mine was on a >>>>>>> par with giving up smoking as far as feeling liberated is concerned. >>>>>> [...]t the >>>>>> practical truth is it is quicker to go from A to B on most local trips by >>>>>> cycling rather than car (although I need very little persuasion to take >>>>>> the >>>>>> cycle!). You can spend as long finding a parking place as it did to drive >>>>>> there - pointless. [...] >>>>> People can get a very warped perception of the so-called benefits of >>>>> using a car. I've often been with people who've chosen to drive somewhere >>>>> when I've decided to walk or ride, starting from the same place, and I've >>>>> arrived there long before they have. This can sometimes be over distances >>>>> of several miles, but because the other people have lost the very idea of >>>>> leaving the car behind they have also lost the idea of how much it has >>>>> crippled them. >>>>> >>>>> My normal commute to work, for example, is 8 miles each way, and cycling >>>>> it is quicker than all other forms of transport. >>>>> >>>>> B >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.