With a targeted attack that's quite possible. It would probably take a government, but then, there are governments that are quite adept at cyber warfare. What would you think would happen if people got into their cars, the doors lock and won't open and the car is immobilized? Call emergency services and the responders, whether they be Police, Fire or maybe a private contractor like a lock smith, has exactly the same problem. Better yet at a set time, lets assume that only only one model of car is hacked. So at rush hour, collision avoidance is turned off and every model of that car accelerates at it's maximum rate until it hits something. You could have that many casualties world wide in one afternoon.

Before you say it can't happen, you should read this.

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

Remember Stuxnet?  A computer virus that attacked industrial controllers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet



Now apparently right now, car manufactures are just becoming aware that they need better security on the systems in their products and they're being patched. But it only takes one slip up.

Remember suxnet

If I was going to do something like that, that's what I'd aim for.

The next question to ask is what price freedom, what price slavery.

On 8/31/2015 12:08 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
Do you think the hackers will be killing 1.24 million people per year?

http://www.who.int/gho/road_safety/mortality/en/

B

On 31 Aug 2015, at 15:10, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:


On the whole, that's an exceedingly bad idea.  Whose time is coming.  I'm 
likely won't be around to see it.  With computer controlled anti lock breaks, 
and computer controlled cruse control, and most every modern car having it's 
owned assigned IP address it's only a matter of time before we have the first 
recorded homicide by hacking a cars cpu(s) and network.  The more control the 
computer in the car has the more control a hacker can achieve.  That's assuming 
there aren't gross errors in the programming to begin with.

On 8/31/2015 2:07 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
P.s. I think that in 10-15 years time we'll be seeing moves to make it illegal 
for humans to drive cars.

When self-driving cars start appearing on our roads they will be so much safer 
than human-driven ones that it will be difficult to argue against. For example, 
why would a boy-racer ever give way to a self-driving ('automobile'!) car, 
knowing that it will always give way?

I don't think the few petrol-heads who'll be left will be too bothered about it 
either. Half the fun of current cars comes from the sound of the engine, and 
the direct relationship between the controls and movement of the car. As 
drive-by-wire and silent, or artificial sound, cars come along that direct 
connection is lost along with the feelings of control and exercise of skill 
that makes driving so much fun.

>From the point of view of cities this will be a good thing. We'll be able to 
get rid of most of the street signs and similar car-related street furniture that 
is so disfiguring of beautiful architecture, and it will reduce congestion.

If you think digital cameras have been revolutionary, you ain't seen nothin' 
yet.

B



On 31 Aug 2015, at 05:48, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:

I like driving. The last car I owned was an MG B Roadster, but the times I got 
to actually enjoy it were so few and far between that the hassles massively 
outweighed the pleasures. Utility driving - which is probably 99% of car use 
for most people - is just a huge pain in the arse.

And as for the countryside, it is of course mass car use that is destroying it 
- the pleasure of driving in it has a high cost. I get far more enjoyment from 
cycling and walking in the countryside than I ever did from driving in it

B


On 31 Aug 2015, at 01:00, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

I find driving a car, especially a well handling, responsive car, to be almost 
therapeutic and a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside - can't put a 
dollar value on that.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith <rrve...@virginmedia.com> wrote:

Bob W wrote:

And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails.

Owning a car is a modern form of slavery. Getting rid of mine was on a
par with giving up smoking as far as feeling liberated is concerned.
[...]t the
practical truth is it is quicker to go from A to B on most local trips by
cycling rather than car (although I need very little persuasion to take the
cycle!). You can spend as long finding a parking place as it did to drive
there - pointless. [...]
People can get a very warped perception of the so-called benefits of using a 
car. I've often been with people who've chosen to drive somewhere when I've 
decided to walk or ride, starting from the same place, and I've arrived there 
long before they have. This can sometimes be over distances of several miles, 
but because the other people have lost the very idea of leaving the car behind 
they have also lost the idea of how much it has crippled them.

My normal commute to work, for example, is 8 miles each way, and cycling it is 
quicker than all other forms of transport.

B
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