I am able to understand it now.
Many thanks again. 

With regards,
Ayash.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, William Robb wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee
> Subject: Re: Twin flash for Macro: Some thoughts
> 
> Ayash, with the setup Warren describes, the bellows factor and
> guide number factor cancel each other out perfectly.
> Exposure must be increased based on an obverse square ratio of
> the lens to film plane distance; the exposure must be decreased
> based on an inverse square ratio of the flash to subject
> distance.
> All he had to do was calculate a primary exposure, based on the
> minimum bellows draw, and the film plane to subject distance
> that it gave when in focus. As he moves the camera closer to the
> subject, he is racking out the bellows. This has the dual effect
> of increasing lens to film plane distance (bellows draw), and
> decreasing at the same rate, the flash to subject distance.
> It is quite a clever design concept, actually.
> 
> I have used TTL with success with macro, but the calculations
> needed to do it are based more on guesswork than science.
> 
> William Robb
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, W.Xato wrote:
> >
> > > Ihave an interesting set up you might be interested
> > > in. I used two cheapie Vivitar flashes on home made
> > > brackets which I attached to the front standard of a
> > > bellows.  As you know, the inverse square law says
> > > that you must increase exposure as you rack out the
> > > bellows.
> >
> > That's right. By how much the exposure should be increased can
> be
> > calculated from the length of extension of the bellow and the
> focal length
> > of the lens used.
> >
> > > Also it says that as the flash gets closer
> > > to the subject, you must decrease the exposure.
> >
> > The problem lies here. By how much moving distance the flash
> be moved
> > towards or away from the subject amounts to how much decrease
> or increase
> > of exposure? Can you please give me some data along with the
> guide number
> > of the flash that you use.
> >
> > > But with the flash attached to the front standard, both of
> > > these cancel out.
> >
> > I have no idea for how much extension of bellow and separation
> between the
> > flash & subject such cancellation takes place.
> >
> > > With my 80mm macro lens and Velvia,
> > > I just set it at f8 and shoot away.
> >
> > If the guide number of the flash that you use are not matching
> with with
> > mine, the aperture value will be different in my case.
> However, it can be
> > adjusted to f/8 by adjusting the flash to subject distance.
> But hey, I
> > don't know how much separation there should be.
> >
> > > I have to increase
> > > the exposure 1/2 to 1 stop at max exxtension but it is
> > > easy to apply.
> >
> > I should say that you have calibrated your system well so you
> can easily
> > tell the in and outs of it. For me it is very difficult.
> >
> > > TTL is difficult for macro because
> > > often the subject is small in comparison to the whole
> > > macro scene.  TTL reads the whole scene and your macro
> > > subject in the foreground will be overexposed.  Macro
> > > flash is easier to do manually even if you have to
> > > calculate exposure and bellows extension factors.
> >
> > Yes, you are absolutely right.
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