Hi Brad,

>       Your points are perfectly valid but I said my piece 
> just because of the number of "significant" issues I have 
> seen coming up just recently.
> 
>       A month or more ago my feelings were better than they 
> are right now. I don't bother remembering all the specifics 
> and I do watch for the uninitiated users stuff, I don't count 
> it. But I do track the general gist of the issues and take 
> more note of the significant show stoppers we would 
> experience. It is also telling that they still do not have 
> proper testing of the software regardless of how long they 
> beta it. The ODB++ internal pads shouldn't have gotten past 
> Alpha testing let alone any further tests, I mean c'mon.

I think you under estimate the time and effort that is required
to test for every effect a change has through the whole package
now. I'm not saying that there's still not room for improvement
only that updates would take many months maybe years to test
every combination that might have a downstream effect.
 
>       The web update is a bit of a mystery to me, I see guys 
> asking about issues supposedly resolved/"fixed" weeks ago, 
> and still no update. 

They then have to test it, as per your request above, they
are looking at 1-2 month releases I think Altium said.

> So how fast is it? Especially when compared to some other EDA 
> vendors that will get hot fixes to users within days (maybe 
> even hours) if it is a significant problem and they have/find
> a fix.

Altium have sent hot fixes in the past with about a day, for big
issues, is the ODB++ internal pad thing a big deal ? can't it
be generated from CAMtastic as a work around or just leave 
unconnected internal pads on ?

Who is offering patches within hours/days ?

Regards,
Darren





 
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