Bart, If I remember correctly, the primary focus of this Fourm is Protel99SE in specific, with Altium Products in General.
By default, most people assume Protel99SE is the target of the question, unless some other version is mentioned. I am speaking my below response specifically of Protel99SE, but since the initial intent of the initial question delt with the assumed intended design of a function, i.e: How Altium intended the function to operate, I simply warned the person that they should never assume that Altium actually intended something to work in a specific manner, since sometimes they (Altium) fall far short od even getting something to work properly. I don't know who put you up to this, or whether you just "fell into" this by simply trying to be good "support personel", but here goes: Protel98, Protel99, and Protel99SE all have exhibed some real nasty stability issues on certain systems. There have been numerous discussions over the years with some people stating it was always the fault of the operator or his system, and others siding with poor programming on the part of Protel/Altium. This all came to a head one day when someone (myself actually) noticed that you could start Protel98/99/99SE, and then just exit it by the file menu ( File > Exit ), and that when you did, you would get this nasty "KLUNK!", which is the Microsoft Error sound. You will get this sound providing that you have not redirected your sound output or turned off your speakers. This was tested extensively here in this Forum, by numerous users, and found to be universal, that is it occurred on everyone's machine, regardless of the installation. I think that there may have been one dissenter to the study, but he was told how to check whether or not this "error" feature was properly turned on, and he never replied, so I would assume that it was unanamous. Now, for comparison, start Protel98/99/99SE and then exit by clicking on the big X in the upper right corner of the application. No "KLUNK!" . The point of the whole demonstration being that in this case Protel/Altium programmers cannot even "Exit" the Application correctly without causing an ERROR! As I pointed out in the ensuing dialogue in this Forum at the time (do a search of the Archive on KLUNK!), this is something akin to writing your first "C" Program, "Hello World", and failing to exit MAIN properly. By my comment of "Over the years various points have been argued pro and con, and all that is for sure is that many still believe it to be better than DXP, Protel 2004, or any of the newer incarnations." I simply mean that if I understand the mainstream thought of the Forum correctly, many, if not most, here, prefer to still use Protel99SE, over the various newer versions that Altium has failed to deliver on. I know that I, being licensed all of the way up thru Protel04 SP4 (although I do not believe that I am licensed for Designer 6.5), still prefer Protel99SE, notwithstanding all of it's shortcommings. By "various points", I mean various problems with Protel99SE. If there are any more specfic questions that I can answer for you . . . JaMi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Jellema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] HIGH LIGHTING CONNECTIONS > Dear JaMi, > > Could you please tell us what version of Protel/Altium Designer you are using to reproduce this issue? We have tried Protel 99SE, Protel 2004 SP4 and Altium Designer 6.5 and could not reproduce this issue. 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If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete it from your system. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] HIGH LIGHTING CONNECTIONS > > > > Yves, > > > > Never assume that anything Protel does or does not do is intended by design. > > > > Over the years various points have been argued pro and con, and all that is > > for sure is that many still believe it to be better than DXP, Protel 2004, > > or any of the newer incarnations. > > > > If you want proof of how badly the Protel design team screwed up, launch > > Protel from the desktop, and then close it from the file menu (not the big X > > in the upper right hand corner). > > > > Now ask yourself why whatever version of Windows you may be using just went > > KLUNK! (i.e. the universal Microsoft Error Sound). No sound? turn your > > volume up. > > > > No. > > > > Never assume anything with Protel! > > > > Especially never assume that when it screws up, it is ever anything but > > besides sheer incompetance. > > > > Another happy protel user. > > > > JaMi > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:32 AM > > Subject: [PEDA] HIGH LIGHTING CONNECTIONS > > > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> I am making right now a 4 layer PCB. I have various split planes > > (-1V,+30V, > >> +6.2 ect). > >> > >> Our verification process states that we verifythe board trace by trace the > >> layout even if we are using netlists. > >> I am using the"Select Connected Copper" function to highlight my > >> connections. I have let's say 10 components connected to a plane and you > >> highlight one track that is connected to that plane why is all the other > >> tracks that are connected to that plane are not highlighted as well. As > > far > >> as I know it is connected copper. > >> > >> I must assume that it is the way Protel made it. > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> Yves Dubois > >> Senior PCB designer > >> Raytron ltd > >> Monteal, QC, Canada > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > >> > >> To Post messages: > >> mailto:[email protected] > >> > >> Unsubscribe and Other Options: > >> http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > >> > >> Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >> > >> Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > > > > To Post messages: > > mailto:[email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > > > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > > To Post messages: > mailto:[email protected] > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
