> On Apr 2, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Steven Ericsson-Zenith <ste...@iase.us> wrote:
> 
> I was simply pointing out that the Logical Positivist argument is not as 
> simplistic as Popper stated it, and that, Carnap said immediately said: "of 
> course,  falsifiable!"  The Peirce family were very well aware of 
> experimental variation and error during verification. Benjamin Peirce's 
> "Criterion" on dealing with statistical outliers is ready evidence of that. 
> But this pragmatic does not invalidate the primary importance of verification 
> per se. 
> 
> They were only wrong (mathematically and in terms of logical syntax) in terms 
> of a dependency upon the truth method, as Godel showed emphatically (in my 
> view). The moment you introduce the notion of "this" and "that," of "true" 
> and "false" you, of pure mathematical necessity it may be claimed, fall into 
> dualism and the detached mind.
> 
> And this is a fault also of Charles Peirce, although he can be said to have 
> been "less wrong" overall because he was following his father with his notion 
> of "third." But as you probably know, there is no ready way to deal with this 
> idea with syntactic rigor. It remains a conception of the mind, while reading 
> linear operations as dyadic

Well I think it goes a bit deeper than that as Quine shows. Of course Quine has 
his own issues. But I confess to liking Quine much more than Carnap.

As for Peirce, I think his solution is that inquiry never ends. That combined 
with thirdness and his notion of continuity solves most of the problems. I 
fully admit it’s not satisfactory to many: thus Putnam returning to various 
issues regarding warrant. 


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