> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Jeffrey Brian Downard <jeffrey.down...@nau.edu> 
> wrote:
> 
> I, too, assume we're discussing what Peirce thought, rather than what we 
> variously may think for our own parts.

I do think it’s worth asking how the argument itself fares given the social 
changes in the intervening century or so. As I mentioned a few weeks ago I 
think that most thinkers in the academy were they to conduct the experiment 
might come to somewhat different results. Since what counts is the community of 
inquirers and not just Peirce, it does seem that is a fruitful avenue to 
consider.

That’s not to deny the utility of focusing in on Peirce’s beliefs. It’s just 
that I think we can and must separate the arguments somewhat from the person 
proposing them. One danger I see in Peircean studies is that it falls into the 
trap of becoming purely about exegesis of Peirce’s thought. That’s an important 
step - especially given that many aspects of Peirce’s thought were so poorly 
understood for so many years. But when his thought isn’t extended beyond that, 
when a quote of Peirce becomes like a Bible verse quoted by a fundamentalist 
religious believer, I think we’re missing something fundamental about Peirce’s 
aims. (Not saying anyone here is doing that mind you - just that I think it’s 
an ever present danger I myself fall into occasionally) In Peircean terms we 
confuse the dynamic object with the immediate object.


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Benjamin Udell <baud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Moreover, pragmatism is the logic of abductive inference to the extent that 
> rules need to be specified for abductive inference at all. Peirce does not 
> offer rules for instinct. 

Ben, do you think that Peirce distinguishes between those good at guesses or 
hypothesis formation and those who are not? 

For instance in a more contemporary context we’d distinguish between the 
hypothesis of a scientist working in their area of knowledge and someone not 
with that background. It seems to me that while Peirce usually discusses 
critical common sensism in the context of regular broad social common sense 
that it applies even better to subgroups. That is subgroups develop a common 
sense based upon their experience over years.

It seems to me that if we distinguish the initial application of abduction 
towards a hypothesis with repeated community testing of the concept then things 
do get a bit trickier. I recognize that the discussion the past few days has 
primarily been on this initial application of abduction. The question then 
becomes to what degree continued inquiry upon what we might call metaphysical 
remains abductive and to what degree it goes beyond this.

Again science offers many examples here. Ideas often are not falsified by 
continued inquiry and experimentation. Rather they simply fall out of favor 
slowly as alternative hypothesis seems more persuasive. That is the normal idea 
of verification or falsification never happens simply because our experiments 
are themselves so theory laden. (As Quine pointed out long ago although which I 
think one can find within Peirce as well) In turn this lines up with his 
critical common sensism. 

Allow me a quote from the archives. In this case from Teresa Calvet from way 
back in Feb 2006.

The bare definition of pragmaticism, writes Peirce (in "What Pragmatism Is "), 
"could convey no satisfactory comprehension of it to the most apprehensive of 
minds" of the doctrines "without the previous acceptance (or virtual 
acceptance) of which pragmaticism itself would be a nullity" (CP 5.416). Peirce 
says here that these preliminary propositions "might all be included under the 
vague maxim, 'Dismiss make-believes'", a maxim that could also be called, "the 
adoption of the general philosophy of common sense". This normative exhortation 
"do not make believe; (...) recognize, as you must, that there is much that you 
do not doubt, in the least" (CP 5.416) was enounced before by Peirce, in 1868, 
in "Some Consequences of Four Incapacities" (W2, p. 212). Instead of presenting 
Peirce simply as anti-Cartesian, I prefer to follow what he himself said: 
"Although pragmaticism is not a philosophy, yet (...) it best comports with the 
English philosophy, and more particularly with the Scotch doctrine of common 
sense" (CP 8.207) and to insist that pragmaticism "involves a complete rupture 
with nominalism" (CP 8.208). To illustrate Peirce's position, William Davis 
suggests (already in 1972) the analogy of a jig-saw puzzle, "where each new bit 
adds significance to the whole, although each bit is incomplete in itself and 
there is no real foundation piece upon which all else is based. Any piece will 
do to start with, where nothing is infallible in principle, though much does 
not fail in practice" (Peirce's Epistemology, p. 20). Ten years later Susan 
Haack also uses that image (in the last section, "The Jigsaw of Knowledge", of 
her paper "Descartes, Peirce and the Cognitive Community"). But we could also 
cite here the following paragraph of "Some consequences of four incapacities": 
"Philosophy ought to imitate the successful sciences in its methods, so far as 
to proceed only from tangible premisses which can be subjected to careful 
scrutiny, and to trust rather to the multitude and variety of its arguments 
than to the conclusiveness of any one. Its reasoning should not form a chain 
which is no stronger than its weakest link, but a cable whose fibers may be 
ever so slender, provided they are sufficiently numerous and intimately 
connected" (W2, p. 213).

One could then open Peirce's 1903 Harvard Lectures on Pragmatism (and present 
his conception of philosophy). It is also in these conferences that Peirce 
formulates three propositions which appear to him to put the edge on the maxim 
of pragmatism (or three cotary propositions): 1) there are no conceptions that 
are not given in perceptual judgments [or: all conceptions are given in 
perceptual judgments] (this is Peirce's interpretation of the slogan Nihil est 
in intellectu quod non prius fuerit in sensu); 2) perceptual judgments contain 
general elements; and 3) abductive inference "shades into perceptual judgments 
without any sharp demarcation between them" and states that "the maxim of 
pragmatism, if true, fully covers the entire logic of abduction" (CP 5.196).

It’s that last point I wish to emphasize. Abduction "shades into perceptual 
judgments without any sharp demarcation between them.” This is very much akin 
to what philosophers of science since at least the middle of the 20th century 
have noted about competing theories that can explain data.



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