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Gary f. From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com] Sent: 16-Apr-17 17:40 Gary R., List: GR: But surely, the most obvious thing, as Gary F reminds us, is that Peirce always says that the Object determines the Sign for the Interpretant ... Yes, and this is what makes CP 2.235-238 so incongruous to me. That passage requires the Third Correlate (Interpretant) to determine the Second Correlate (Object), and the Second Correlate (Object) to determine the First Correlate (Sign). [GF: ] That “requirement” is something you have read into it, I think by mistaking Peirce’s order of presentation for the order of determination. Try fixing your understanding of the order of determination in your mind, and then read the passage again carefully and test whether it is consistent with your understanding. I think you’ll see that it is. It certainly is consistent with the understanding I’ve expressed, which you’ve said you agree with. It’s also possible that you’ve been distracted by Peirce’s statement that “These three trichotomies, taken together, divide all triadic relations into ten classes.” They would indeed, but since they are not the three trichotomies of sign types, they would not divide signs into the same ten classes that Peirce gives us later in NDTR. I wonder if part of the problem here is that there are differences in what each of us means by "determine"; again, I am using it as synonymous with "constrain the mode of." Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt <http://www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt> - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt <http://twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt>
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