List, Kirsti: > On Apr 19, 2017, at 11:51 AM, kirst...@saunalahti.fi wrote: > > Jerry, > Why would any pragmatic sign (even limited to science & techology > perspectives) be of natural kind? - Scientists and engineers do read and > write, do they not?
Perhaps we mis-understand one another. I wrote: It seems to me that from either a scientific or engineering perspective: 1. Any pragmatic object is a natural sort or kind. 2. Any pragmatic object can induce dynamics as an “originator of signs” by a range of metrologies. So, I think I agree with your perspective. My intent was to avoid the multiplicity of philosophical / linguistic meanings associated with the concept of “object” / “objective". So, by implication, a pragmatic object has actual existence / beingness. The assignment of purposefulness is arbitrary. Equally important, the I sought to stress the dependency of the interpretant on the interpreter. That is, the mental object generated by the communication between the natural kind and the interpretive capacities of the interpreter such that a written symbol can be generated by voluntary action. The interpretant can be symbolically expressed only in the symbol system that the interpreter has a competency. Cheers jerry > > Cheers, > > Kirsti > > Jerry LR Chandler kirjoitti 19.4.2017 17:33: >> List, Jon: >>> On Apr 18, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt >>> <jonalanschm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> If not, how else can we explain why it must be the case that the >>> Object determines the Sign, which determines the Intepretant? >> I am puzzled about why this question is of import to you. >> Are you rejecting the necessary hypothesis that the normativity of the >> interpretant is a function of the norms of the interpreter? >> It seems to me that from either a scientific or engineering >> perspective: >> 1. Any pragmatic object is a natural sort or kind. >> 2. Any pragmatic object can induce dynamics as an “originator of >> signs” by a range of metrologies. >> Of course, some signs carry very little meaning about the nature of >> interpretant while other measurements are _ESSENTIAL TO DETERMINING >> THE IDENTITY_ of the interpretant. (Not all signs are created equal!) >> Cheers >> Jerry >
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