On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:14:53 +0100, Frances Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

To the extent
therefore that some consciousness is interpretable and translatable,
then it is all conceivably and probably an objective logical
construct. Indeed, all of subjectivity would then fall under this
phenomenal umbrella, which is existential and experiential.

You confuse me, Frances. Going from "some" to "all" here seems to be an
inductive step. And the conclusion seems to me doubtful, since consciousness seems to be a continuous process. Though you can determine it, perhaps to any
extent you please, that does not mean that it necessarily consists of these
determinations. It is embodied in these and those objects, but it does not
consist of these objects though it has to be embodied in _some_ objects. Or do I misunderstand what you mean by "phenomenal umbrella"? Maybe it's only a matter
of language.

Thomas.


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