Good point. Seems to me that Ottawa has such an area, and doesn't Vancouver. I don't
know about US cities. We don't suffer too much from pollution or development in this
area, although sometimes when I pass farmers who are spraying I pray that my lungs are
Roundup Ready.I guess the next step will be to genetically engineer farm babies to be
herbicide tolerant.
  CHeers, Ken Hanly

Rod Hay wrote:

> Ken In addition, it might be useful to ban auto traffic in high density areas. It
> would be difficult, but worth a debate in our major cities. My local paper this
> morning predicts 60 to 70 extra deaths this summer (in a city of about half a
> million) due to air pollution. Properly handled this should at least generate some
> public discussion.
>
> Rod
>
> Ken Hanly wrote:
>
> > If there really is an emergency and people are convinced of that I don't see
> > why rationing
> > would not work. While I agree that public transportation should be supported,
> > as long as the
> > rich don't use it they will use their influence and power to sabotage attempts
> > to subsidize a system they do not use. You are right of course about the growth
> > of grey  markets and black markets that still afford the well off superior
> > treatment under rationing. THe same thing happens with our medicare system
> > where doctors, and politicians jump queues or travel to the US but the system
> > nevertheless works reasonably well--and would work much better if
> > properly funded. If the rich are part of the rationing system then they have a
> > stake in it and will be interested in seeing to it that it works. At least you
> > show concern for the relative impact of policies on different income groups.
> > Mark Jones apparently  thinks this is fiddling while Rome burns.
> >
> > Jim Devine wrote:
> >
> > > At 09:41 PM 06/27/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >     Although I appreciate Jim Devine's argument for higher gas prices
> > > > there is a definite income bias involved. The relatively well off can
> > > > continue to drive their SUV's etc. while the lower middle classes will be
> > > > priced right out of the automobile market. This saves oil but in a
> > > > totally unfair way. THe large group of drivers who now enjoy relatively
> > > > cheap gas can hardly be blamed for opposing a more progressive energy
> > > > pricing policy if it threatens to end or curtail their enjoyment of
> > > > automobiles while those well off continue as before. Why not ration
> > > > gasoline as was done in wartime? Rationing by the market is rationing for
> > > > the rich.
> > >
> > > Rationing is only a defensive maneuver, one that eventually gets weak as
> > > the rich use their political connections and their ability to afford high
> > > illegal-market prices. Though it worked during WW 2 in the US, how long
> > > could it have lasted?
> > >
> > > Instead, the government should deal with the problem by increasing the
> > > amount and quality of public mass transit drastically, including getting
> > > many more of these natural-gas-driven wheelchair-friendly busses. Much of
> > > the expense can be covered by the gas tax. In general, the idea is to move
> > > toward the best W. European model.
> > >
> > > Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine
>
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