Yoshie:
>That's no reason to give up, unless you agree with Brad, Nathan, 
>etc., which you don't.

Give up on what? If you'll recall from the time you were on the Marxism
list, Jose Perez explained that Marx and Engels were not always involved in
party-building. Sometimes, especially during an ebb in the class struggle,
they would concentrate on theorizing about the state of the movement and
what to do next. 

>It seems to me that both you & Brad believe in the iron cage, though 
>with different political reasons & conclusions.  If you believe in 
>the iron cage, though, what's the point of being a socialist in 
>America?
>
>Yoshie

How did this turn into a question of being a socialist or not? I wouldn't
spend $150 a month to maintain a Marxism mailing list if I was not a
socialist. The issue is whether workers in the USA can be reached in
significant numbers with a revolutionary message right now. I don't believe so.

Louis Proyect
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