Hi Michael,

I think the jury's still out on this one. In certain national contexts (usually
advanced capitalist ones), the economists are probably not eating crow.
(Basso's work shows that working-time is increasing in advanced capitalism) At
the global scale, (the only proper level to examine this question IMO), the
economists don't even know where to begin carving it up. The ILO says 1/3 of
the world's workforce is un- or underemployed (about 1 billion, mainly
underemployed). And they claim the situation is getting worse.

I think I mentioned before that China experienced full employment by the end of
the 1970s. Now, the scale of the 'surplus' population is measured in the
hundreds of millions. (and there was *not* much disguised unemployment in China
before the reforms) I'm not *blaming* technology for this; 'unemployment' is a
social category that presupposes capitalist relations of production, which in
the case of China you actually watch being created. The capitalist relations of
production is where our critique should be aimed I would think. Policy makers
in China have given up trying to create formal employment for the 'surplus
population', and are happy to let them fend for themselves in the informal
sector. Well, I suppose hawking stuff on the street is still value-creating
service employment! (sarcasm)

This still seems relevant:

"All political economists of any standing admit that the introduction of new
machinery has a baneful effect on the workmen in the old handicrafts and
manufactures with which this machinery at first competes. Almost all of them
bemoan the slavery of the factory operative. And what is the great trump-card
that they play? That machinery, after the horrors of the period of introduction
and development have subsided, instead of diminishing, in the long run
increases the number of the slaves of labour! Yes, Political Economy revels in
the hideous theory, hideous to every "philanthropist" who believes in the
eternal Nature-ordained necessity for capitalist production, that after a
period of growth and transition, even its crowning success, the factory system
based on machinery, grinds down more workpeople than on its first introduction
it throws on the streets." KM

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm#S7

Cheers,

Jonathan

M Perelman wrote:

The current explanation that job flight this response to improved technology
races to
questions for me.

Virtually every economics textbook I have seen dismisses the idea that new
technology
can destroy jobs.  The most reputable counterargument came from David Ricardo
in the
19th-century.  Few economists have done much further.

Supposedly, new technology lowers prices, which spurs new demand, which
reemploy as
the workers.  I'm not saying I accept this argument, but I have not seen many
economists eating crow.

Secondly, I have no idea how you separate new technology from outsourcing.
Until
very recently, much of the spur to new technology came from the production of
informational processing technologies, but much of the manufacturing, which
certainly
played a role in the reduction of costs, occurred offshore.


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