I wrote:
On the subject of foreign fighters in Chechnya, I
should have added that, if memory serves, both the
Kremlin and the various rebel sources put the number
of foreigners in Chechnya at any given time at about
200. So, it's not a lot (given that there are
supposedly about 1,500 full-time fighters). But they
serve a major ideological and financial role.
--

I add:

Peter Lavelle interviewed the recently assassinated
Akhmad Kadyrov, ex-rebel turned pro-Moscow president
of Chenchya, last year (I edited the interview). I've
linked to it before. Here, Kadyrov is referring to the
role of the foreigners in Chechnya. By "people of
other nationalities," I assume he means, first and
foremost, Arabs like Khattab.

How do you estimate your opponents' chances? Can they
pose serious competition for you in the election?

I say it again - time will tell. I do not want to be
philosophical about the seriousness of my competitors;
I do not want to discuss that. One can see with the
naked eye what they have done and contributed to the
Republic of Chechnya to avoid war.

Where were they in 1997-1999, and what were they doing
when I was fighting Wahhabism? What were they doing to
prevent the war? I have been living in Chechnya all
this time, and I have always been against Wahhabis,
which is why they constantly had me in their sights.
The assassination attempts against me were not
accidental. Who prepared them and what for?

I always said that Wahhabism is unacceptable for the
Chechen nation. We are Muslims, and we did not convert
to Sufi Islam just a couple of days ago. They tried to
thrust an idea upon us that had been originally
invented against Islam, albeit allegedly under the
banner of Islam.

Do you see the Republic of Chechnya as a Muslim, an
Islamic one?

I was strongly against the introduction of a Sharia
government in the republic - but not because I did not
want such a thing. I am working hard for it, actually.
But I know that we are not ready. One has to nurture a
new generation, to raise children in the spirit of
Islam.

The Sharia regulations that they gave us were simply
an interpretation of the Sudanese ones. They were
approved by Yandarbiyev, and he did not ask anyone.
When Aslan Maskhadov and I visited Saudi Arabia and
met with the government of Sudan, Sudanese officials
told us that it had taken them 11 years to institute a
Sharia government. Did we want to have everything done
in one day? Things do not work like that.

Furthermore, who dictated Islam to us? Movladi Udugov,
who does not have any idea what Islam is? Or Maskhadov
and Yandarbiyev? Who are they? They do not know the
bases of Islam, they do not understand it.

All these people ran a separatist policy deliberately.

Why is all this happening in Chechnya? Because the
Chechens are warriors, first and foremost. Second,
they are very trusting people - I am saying this to
you as a Chechen man. We trust everyone else, but we
do not trust each other. We believe people of other
nationalities more than we believe each other. All the
wars that have taken place in Chechnya since the era
of tsarist Russia were unleashed by people of other
nationalities. Unfortunately, our nation has never had
a leader who would stand up for his nation.

Military troops were withdrawn from Chechnya on Dec.
31, 1996. But what did "free Chechnya" do? It opened
the door to criminals from the entire territory of
Russia, the former USSR and its outskirts. Criminals
were coming to Chechnya from all over the world - they
did not have a place in their own countries. But they
could live perfectly well in Chechnya.

Non-Muslims were allegedly converting to Islam. It is
ridiculous to talk about such a thing . Becoming a
Muslim for them implied growing a beard and learning
how to pronounce "salam aleykum." What kind of a
Muslim is that?

I grew up in a very religious family. I could read the
Qu'ran easily at the age of five. Do you think I can
stay calm when such people try to teach me what Islam
is, how to pronounce it and what to do with it?!

If Yeltsin and Maskhadov signed a peace treaty between
Russia and Chechnya, why did the incursion into
Dagestan take place? If we, as a separate state that
had concluded a peace treaty with Russia, attack a
neighboring republic, a unit of the Russian
Federation, is it called Jihad? No, it is not. It is a
provocation to unleash a war in Chechnya.



But you declared Jihad on Russia in 1995. You were
waging war on Shamil Basayev and Aslan Maskhadov's
side.

Yes, I was on that side, and I am proud that I was
able to choose the right way to go. There are specific
reasons for why I declared Jihad and why I changed my
position. That was a time when people were gripped
with the idea of liberation. They thought that people
like Dudayev or Yandarbiyev wanted freedom and an
Islamic state for Chechnya.



And what happened next?

There is a rule of Sharia: If the enemy wants to
suppress you, you are supposed to put up a strong
resistance. But the enemy did not come on its own: We
brought it to us. We went to Dagestan, arranged a
massacre there and then returned. This means, as they
say, that Russia is the enemy that came to the borders
and demanded that the bandits should be delivered -
Basayev, Khattab, everyone who had been in Dagestan.
But instead of delivering the bandits, Aslan Maskhadov
appointed them commanders. He accepted the war, and
that was when I stood up against them.

I appeared on television and called upon people to
bring their sons, their brothers back - everyone who
was going to Dagestan. I said that it was a war
between neighbors, between Muslims. But it didn't
work. I personally told Maskhadov not to let Basayev
go. Aslan assured me that Basayev was not coming back
to Chechnya, because he had a plan: To first conquer
Dagestan and then attack Azerbaijan and spread the
ideas of Islam.

I objected. I said that Russia would not surrender
Dagestan, because it is a border territory, a route to
the sea and out of the country.

I addressed Ruslan Ali-Hajiyev, chairman of
parliament, asking him to dismiss Maskhadov, to take
power into their hands: Otherwise, a war would be
inevitable. He answered that, if Maskhadov were
dismissed, according to the Constitution, Arsan
Alakhov would become the head of the republic. That
would be even worse. I asked him to tell Arsan's
people that Aslan was leading the republic to war.
They did not do it, they decided not to do it, and so
we had the second Chechen campaign.

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