David Shemano wrote:
> My use of "conservatives" and "liberals" probably does a disservice to 
> Haidt's analysis, because the words mean different things to different people 
> and are very nation/place specific.<

I can't criticize Haidt's research, because I haven't read it, but
fact that the meanings of the terms vary over time and between places
pose a real problem. "Conservative" and "liberal" don't have meanings
simply based on individual psychology or biology but have different
meanings depending on the socioeconomic context.

"Conservative" typically means defense of the current structure of
power and privilege -- or support for a return to a
previously-existing structure (the "ancien régime"). Worse, it's
multidimensional: "conservative" can mean defense of the power of a
socially dominant ethnic group, the establishment of a religion,
"traditional" ideals concerning family and sex/gender relations, a
"muscular" and expansionist military foreign policy, and/or the power
of the wealthy. Also, "conservative" could also mean defense of the
interpretation of the US constitution's 2nd amendment as the right for
any adult to carry weapons anywhere or of the right to make moonshine
or meth in one's backyard.

Even worse, in the U.S. context, on the concrete level, there seem to
be two meanings of "conservative" which potentially put their
adherents in conflict. One the one hand, there's the traditionalist
conservatives who defend an American version of Kinder, Küche, Kirche
(e.g., many followers of Santorum). On the other hand, there's the
money-libertarians whose main defense is of the power of the rich (Ron
Paul's legions). Alas for those who try to belong to both of these
camps, "free markets" tend to erode traditional social relationships
and power inequalities (except the power of those with a lot of
money).

My focus here is on conservatives, but a lot of the same kinds of
things can be said about "liberals."
-- 
Jim Devine / "In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to
be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But
in poetry, it's the exact opposite." -- Paul Dirac. Social science is
in the middle.... and usually in a muddle.
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