On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Andreas J. Koenig wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:22:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas J. Koenig) said:
> 1. You get a fail report with an error message that doesn't tell you
> exactly what went wrong.
> 2. You rewrite your test in a way that it does tell you more.
> 3. Release.
> 4. If you now understand the problem, fix it, else goto 1.
Sorry I didn't notice before I posted that this can be refactored into
a while loop:
while (You don't understand the output of your own test script){
Rewrite your test script;
Release;
}
If only it were that easy.
Sometimes the test report is something mysterious to me, that I think just
can't happen. Other times I understand the output ("got X instead of Y")
but I can't think of any reason _why_ that should happen.
It's as simple as it can get. And I probably do not have to explain
why I'm backing the position of imacat. The developer never tells the
tester what to do. The tester is a device and you can use it IFF you
want to fix your bugs. Otherwise, don't.
If the tester were a device it shouldn't be telling the developer what to
do either, now should it?
Several people in this thread have interpreted the back-and-forth with
imacat I linked to as some sort of "my position vs hers (his?)". That's
not the case at all. Simply put, the initial bug report/request _DID NOT
MAKE SENSE_ to me. I tried to get clarification and got a fight instead.
Should testers pre-install Module::Build? I don't freaking care if they
do. OTOH, if the passthrough Module::Build installer bits don't work, that
is worth fixing, and is worthy of a bug report _for Module::Build_.
OTOH, if tester configure their systems to _intentionally_ not follow the
passthrough and install Module::Build, yeah, some stuff will just not
work, and that's not my problem. If you don't want to install the prereqs
as part of testing, then don't test.
-dave
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