On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 11:23 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> writes: > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > >> I already pointed out some pretty serious problems with the updatable > >> views patch. Are you claiming they are trivial to fix? >
> Even if the improbable happens and there's an apparently bug-free patch > ready in two weeks, I think it would be far better project management to > have it go in at the beginning of the 8.5 cycle than at the tail end of > 8.4. This is a major patch that has very real possibilities for > breaking plain old crash recovery, even for users not using HS. The > idea of shipping it with only a minimal amount of testing should scare > the pants off you. This is my take as well. This is very real, very scary things that are being worked on. HS should only ship after a very, very long non change cycle (meaning no significant bugs (or refactoring) found in HS patch for X period of time)... say after a full 8.5 dev cycle. I do not want to commit this patch and then have to yank it out 3 months from now. Lastly, the last time a developer told me two weeks it was 3 months. Unless we get a written development plan that describes specifically what, when, why and how long I am severely suspect that Heikki or Simon have a clue on an actual deliverable time line (no offense guys). Developers are generally overly optimistic about their delivery time lines. Oh and before someone says, "Why would I write that. It is a waste of time when I could be coding..." That was the second thing they said to be before it took 3 months. Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdr...@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997 -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
