2014-05-12 22:33 GMT+02:00 Göran Krampe <go...@krampe.se>:

> Hi!
>
> On 04/30/2014 10:02 PM, kilon alios wrote:
>
>> Another mistake is that people tend to over idealising Smalltalk and it
>> appears as if Smalltalk used to be popular, but I have found no evidence
>> that Smalltalk was ever popular. Again I may be wrong but this is also
>> maybe a motivation to regard Smalltalk dead.
>>
>
> It was quite popular in... 1985-ish to 1995-ish. I would guess that during
> those years VisualWorks and VisualAge (primarily) covered 33% of the OOP
> market and C++ about 60% - and the rest by other even smaller things like
> Eiffel. Those numbers I recall from some magazine, so I am not making them
> up. If you were into OO at the time it was quite a lot of buzz around both
> Smalltalk and C++ IMHO.
>
> But OOP was almost exclusively used in large corporations or institutions
> that could muster the licenses. But Smalltalk *was* fairly big and some
> truly huge systems were built.
>
> But it was not in any serious awareness outside the corporate world -
> since there was hardly any cheap or free Smalltalk available. C++ was
> though and ate up that space, and of course...
>
> ...you know what came in 1995. :)
>
> If say... Dolphin had been born as an open source (or at least gratis
> download) project - so that people could easily build Win32 apps for
> consumer use, like VB or Deplhi... then perhaps the world had been
> different.
>
> regards, Göran
>
>
But Smalltalk V was cheap, small, fairly well documented and worked on
windows (DOS even).

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