I worked at a company writing commercial (i.e. shrink wrapped boxes on store shelves) application using Smalltalk V.
On May 12, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2014-05-12 22:33 GMT+02:00 Göran Krampe <go...@krampe.se>: > Hi! > > On 04/30/2014 10:02 PM, kilon alios wrote: > Another mistake is that people tend to over idealising Smalltalk and it > appears as if Smalltalk used to be popular, but I have found no evidence > that Smalltalk was ever popular. Again I may be wrong but this is also > maybe a motivation to regard Smalltalk dead. > > It was quite popular in... 1985-ish to 1995-ish. I would guess that during > those years VisualWorks and VisualAge (primarily) covered 33% of the OOP > market and C++ about 60% - and the rest by other even smaller things like > Eiffel. Those numbers I recall from some magazine, so I am not making them > up. If you were into OO at the time it was quite a lot of buzz around both > Smalltalk and C++ IMHO. > > But OOP was almost exclusively used in large corporations or institutions > that could muster the licenses. But Smalltalk *was* fairly big and some truly > huge systems were built. > > But it was not in any serious awareness outside the corporate world - since > there was hardly any cheap or free Smalltalk available. C++ was though and > ate up that space, and of course... > > ...you know what came in 1995. :) > > If say... Dolphin had been born as an open source (or at least gratis > download) project - so that people could easily build Win32 apps for consumer > use, like VB or Deplhi... then perhaps the world had been different. > > regards, Göran > > > But Smalltalk V was cheap, small, fairly well documented and worked on > windows (DOS even).