Le 04/10/2014 08:14, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi Thierry,
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Thierry Goubier
<thierry.goub...@gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com>> wrote:
[...]
And now, to make integration easier, we pile more stuff on top of
the existing, bound to be removed, infrastructure: Glamour, Rubric,
etc... And both Glamour and Spec don't make it easy to solve Morphic
bugs.
I value your ambition a lot :) But I also feel that it stresses the
Rmod team, and it leaks over the community.
I believe there is a confusion here. GT and Glamour are not maintained
by the RMoD team. GT is an external project and it is maintained in its
separate repository. That is why it stresses RMoD less and it is a way
of scaling.
I agree that the GT Tools are a bit different. Still, TxText integration
will have to work on all users of all forms of text, including GT (and
additionally GT).
And now you are starting to have the issue of handling slices on GT from
Pharo: do people have to register on Moose, resynchronize on GT on
Moose, push their slices there, wait for Moose to push a slice to
integrate on Pharo, wait for Pharo to integrate that slice?
Also, since more than one year I am working on fixing various Morphic
problems, and I can tell you that GT provides a significant productivity
boost in that specific area. In any case, you should also note that
these tools are under development since several years (the overall
project started 5 years ago) and they are being actively used since 2
years in Moose. I believe we never had that much focus on the tools before.
I found that stepping through the opening sequence of GT to debug
MorphTreeMorph a pain and had to find another way to understand the
issue. I do have specific tools I can use in such circumstances that you
don't have.
I agree that Morphic has improved due to the fact GT is exposing it in
different ways (and you solving bugs in there), and that you are
integrating Alain's work (Rubric) in advance. I'm not worried by GT per
se (see above for the contribution things), but by the fact core
elements (Athens, TxText, NativeBoost, git) are a long way from stabilising.
Thierry
Cheers,
Doru
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