Personally, I prefer names like  SUnit and JUnit.

And these provide counter-counter examples. :-)

On 8 December 2015 at 23:25, Robert Withers <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait. Kafka is a part of Hadoop, now? Getting some Love! There's a good
> match right there. Makes for a very good lambda architecture. They need a
> meta. Hello squeak!!!  Somebody just needs to build a kafka interface and a
> spark callback interface. Get squeak with caching to start grinding data,
> it's right there.
>
> You're right, Phil. Furthermore these names are personable, effective
> marketing and they always have something to do with what they do. Taker
> flume, sqoop, yarn or impala. I'll take the Impala, thank you. It's vintage.
>
> In my case, choosing Mushroom has a reasonable descriptive power when
> considered in light of mobile code budding out all over the grid. It's a
> cloud solution.
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 12/08/2015 05:10 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
>
> Whoever works with Hadoop tech would find names like:
>
> Hadoop
> Spark
> Cassandra
> HBase
> Accumulo
> Hive
> Pig
> Impala
> Oozie
> YARN
> Kafka
> Flume
> Sqoop
> ...
>
> Go datascience and you'll get:
>
> R
> Shiny
> Jupyter
> Pandas
> Bokeh
> D3
>
> And in JS:
>
> Node
> Angular
> Express
>
> descriptive names? Not at all.
>
> What matters is not the name, it is its description.
>
> And, know what, put a generic name and it will be ungooglable.
>
> Try with Visual Studio Code ...
>
> Pfah, descriptive project names... As if these were descriptive:
>
> Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf)
> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet)
> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (Trusty Tahr)
> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
>
> Oh yeah super descriptive names:
>
> Oracle Communications Diameter Signaling Router
>
> Have a clue?  Enjoy, they have a bunch and renamed a few:
> https://www.oracle.com/products/oracle-a-z.html
>
> Want to know? Pay the dues.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Robert Withers <robert.w.with...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I would need to disagree with you as inquiry is possible by description,
>> rather than by name, through conversation with those who don't have to
>> inquire, due to their knowledge [see Meno's Paradox...]. So, a third
>> possibility exists through communal association. Do you know Kevin Bacon?
>> ;-)
>>
>> I've used that language!
>>
>> On 12/08/2015 04:02 PM, EuanM wrote:
>>>
>>> The philosophical issue behind the disutility of project names like
>>> these is "Meno's Paradox"
>>>
>>> On 8 December 2015 at 21:01, EuanM <euan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "I wish people would choose descriptive names for their projects" - Todd
>>>>
>>>> I agree.
>>>>
>>>> I went looking for the current state of dbxtalk recently.  It seemed
>>>> to ba apackage designed for my needs - to X[-over] from a DB to
>>>> [small]talk.
>>>>
>>>> I went there and the the page started talking about "Glorp" and
>>>> "Garage".  Neither are mnemonic or meaningful
>>>>
>>>> These projects are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>>
>>>> Pharo project names have publisher-only project names.  The project
>>>> name equivalent of write-only computer languages, like Brain-F**k.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 December 2015 at 17:52, Todd Blanchard <tblanch...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sigh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish people would choose descriptive names for their projects.  I
>>>>> went looking on Smalltalkhub for some capability and what I found are
>>>>> thousands of packages with names that mean nothing and no description
>>>>> entered either.  If you want to make sure nobody ever uses your code 
>>>>> you've
>>>>> just taken a giant step in the right direction.  But if you hope to make
>>>>> something lots of people benefit from - nobody is going to look for
>>>>> "mushroom" when they want crypto capabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, this has been really bugging me lately.  We, as a community, do
>>>>> a lousy job of making our code easy to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Todd Blanchard
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 07:38, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like it, but it seems you missed my point :)
>>>>>> mushroom --> 117,000,000 is two orders of magnitude more hidden.
>>>>>> Anyway, maybe I overplay its significance.
>>>>>> cheers -ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Robert Withers
>>>>>> <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I renamed the project to Mushroom and I also dumped the encoding work
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> focus on shutdown, optimization and serialization. Here's the wiki:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/SqueakCryptographySquad/Mushroom/wiki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/06/2015 01:42 AM, Ben Coman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Robert Withers
>>>>>>>> <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/05/2015 09:24 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Robert Withers
>>>>>>>>>> <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now I think you are right on with your observation. Additionally,
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>> of dialects could increase further with Fuel serialization, just
>>>>>>>>>>> port
>>>>>>>>>>> SecureSession and bits.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alright, I came up with a name and it may border on the egregious
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> presenting ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Maelstrom"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Great sounding name.  However some general advice for the
>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>> since I see a lot of great sounding project names drowned out in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> noise of our web-search-centric universe.  A litmus test for
>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>> naming is using google search to find which return low search
>>>>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>>>>> Today, its more important to be unique than any other attribute of
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> name.  So in general, *dictionary* english words are not the best.
>>>>>>>>>> One technique is to intentionally mispell the word you like.  Here
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> some comparative examples (note, the surrounding quotes are
>>>>>>>>>> required
>>>>>>>>>> to avoid google trying to be helpful and correct the spelling)...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "maelstrom"    --> 7,480,000
>>>>>>>>>> "maelstroom"  --> 6,200
>>>>>>>>>> "maelstrum"    --> 2,280
>>>>>>>>>> "maelstruum"  --> 7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lots of interesting other techniques can be found by searching on:
>>>>>>>>>> techniques to generate brand names or domain names.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers -ben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would be happy to change the names to something more unique,
>>>>>>>>> though it
>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>> take a few. Are you suggesting "maelstruum"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Suggesting* yes, but the choice is yours ;)  You need to own it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think maelstruum is certainly memorable with the double "u", but
>>>>>>>> maybe jarring next the the "m".  I'm inclined to maelstroom, since I
>>>>>>>> associate it with "zoom".  I wouldn't necessarily go for the
>>>>>>>> absolute
>>>>>>>> lowest results.  I have an entirely unsubstantiated belief that
>>>>>>>> anything less than 10,000 gives a reasonable chance to compete once
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> user's browsing history is taken into account.  Finally you need to
>>>>>>>> check existing results don't return something abhorrent (I didn't do
>>>>>>>> this).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd encourage to play around testing on google search.  Its quick
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> easy to generate and test alternatives. I've added a few more below.
>>>>>>>> "maelstra" --> 3,560
>>>>>>>> "maelstram" --> 504
>>>>>>>> "maelstrim" --> 1200
>>>>>>>> "maelstroon" --> 58
>>>>>>>> "maelstroomi" --> 4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> btw, I wouldn't swap the order of the "ae" since that would be
>>>>>>>> susceptible to real typing errors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers -ben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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