Things are moving. Now the new thing is http://hortonworks.com/products/dataflow/
Pharo could indeed be embedded at various places (like in MR w/ Hadoop Streaming). It is annoying that it is 32 bits as there is a need to deploy 32 bits libs all over the cluster and that's hard to do in a skunkworks way. We run some C code on the cluster, that's working nicely. Pharo would be nice to run around as the image is reasonably featured, and is one single file, which is better than the jar hell ones get when doing Java. And when doing Scala, it is worse. At this point, Python runs took (Spark) and it is doing well for some workloads. Maybe I can arrange for a project with the client where one has to implement a workload using Pharo. That is when we'll have a Spur based system that doesn't ask for 32 bit libs. And it all runs on CentOS6.x --> making this a prime platform on Linux is key for adoption. Already said, already pushed for it, that's why there is a link on the site but that's still second grade citizenry. Not good for me to push marketing wise. As of Impala, I do not run it, we do HiveQL (cluster is all OpenSource w/ Hortonworks HDP 2.3) Phil On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Robert Withers <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wait. Kafka is a part of Hadoop, now? Getting some Love! There's a good > match right there. Makes for a very good lambda architecture. They need a > meta. Hello squeak!!! Somebody just needs to build a kafka interface and a > spark callback interface. Get squeak with caching to start grinding data, > it's right there. > > You're right, Phil. Furthermore these names are personable, effective > marketing and they always have something to do with what they do. Taker > flume, sqoop, yarn or impala. I'll take the Impala, thank you. It's vintage. > > In my case, choosing Mushroom has a reasonable descriptive power when > considered in light of mobile code budding out all over the grid. It's a > cloud solution. > > Robert > > On 12/08/2015 05:10 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > Whoever works with Hadoop tech would find names like: > > Hadoop > Spark > Cassandra > HBase > Accumulo > Hive > Pig > Impala > Oozie > YARN > Kafka > Flume > Sqoop > ... > > Go datascience and you'll get: > > R > Shiny > Jupyter > Pandas > Bokeh > D3 > > And in JS: > > Node > Angular > Express > > descriptive names? Not at all. > > What matters is not the name, it is its description. > > And, know what, put a generic name and it will be ungooglable. > > Try with Visual Studio Code ... > > Pfah, descriptive project names... As if these were descriptive: > > Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) > Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) > Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (Trusty Tahr) > Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin) > > Oh yeah super descriptive names: > > Oracle Communications Diameter Signaling Router > > Have a clue? Enjoy, they have a bunch and renamed a few: > <https://www.oracle.com/products/oracle-a-z.html> > https://www.oracle.com/products/oracle-a-z.html > > Want to know? Pay the dues. > > Phil > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Robert Withers < > robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would need to disagree with you as inquiry is possible by description, >> rather than by name, through conversation with those who don't have to >> inquire, due to their knowledge [see Meno's Paradox...]. So, a third >> possibility exists through communal association. Do you know Kevin Bacon? >> ;-) >> >> I've used that language! >> >> On 12/08/2015 04:02 PM, EuanM wrote: >> >>> The philosophical issue behind the disutility of project names like >>> these is "Meno's Paradox" >>> >>> On 8 December 2015 at 21:01, EuanM < <euan...@gmail.com> >>> euan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "I wish people would choose descriptive names for their projects" - Todd >>>> >>>> I agree. >>>> >>>> I went looking for the current state of dbxtalk recently. It seemed >>>> to ba apackage designed for my needs - to X[-over] from a DB to >>>> [small]talk. >>>> >>>> I went there and the the page started talking about "Glorp" and >>>> "Garage". Neither are mnemonic or meaningful >>>> >>>> These projects are just the tip of the iceberg. >>>> >>>> Pharo project names have publisher-only project names. The project >>>> name equivalent of write-only computer languages, like Brain-F**k. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7 December 2015 at 17:52, Todd Blanchard < <tblanch...@mac.com> >>>> tblanch...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sigh. >>>>> >>>>> I wish people would choose descriptive names for their projects. I >>>>> went looking on Smalltalkhub for some capability and what I found are >>>>> thousands of packages with names that mean nothing and no description >>>>> entered either. If you want to make sure nobody ever uses your code >>>>> you've >>>>> just taken a giant step in the right direction. But if you hope to make >>>>> something lots of people benefit from - nobody is going to look for >>>>> "mushroom" when they want crypto capabilities. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, this has been really bugging me lately. We, as a community, do >>>>> a lousy job of making our code easy to find. >>>>> >>>>> -Todd Blanchard >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 07:38, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> >>>>>> <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I like it, but it seems you missed my point :) >>>>>> mushroom --> 117,000,000 is two orders of magnitude more hidden. >>>>>> Anyway, maybe I overplay its significance. >>>>>> cheers -ben >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Robert Withers >>>>>> <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I renamed the project to Mushroom and I also dumped the encoding >>>>>>> work to >>>>>>> focus on shutdown, optimization and serialization. Here's the wiki: >>>>>>> https://github.com/SqueakCryptographySquad/Mushroom/wiki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks,Robert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/06/2015 01:42 AM, Ben Coman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Robert Withers >>>>>>>> <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/05/2015 09:24 PM, Ben Coman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Robert Withers >>>>>>>>>> <robert.w.with...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now I think you are right on with your observation. >>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, the >>>>>>>>>>> number >>>>>>>>>>> of dialects could increase further with Fuel serialization, just >>>>>>>>>>> port >>>>>>>>>>> SecureSession and bits. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Alright, I came up with a name and it may border on the >>>>>>>>>>> egregious ... >>>>>>>>>>> presenting ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Maelstrom" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Great sounding name. However some general advice for the >>>>>>>>>> community, >>>>>>>>>> since I see a lot of great sounding project names drowned out in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> noise of our web-search-centric universe. A litmus test for >>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>>> naming is using google search to find which return low search >>>>>>>>>> results. >>>>>>>>>> Today, its more important to be unique than any other attribute >>>>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>>>>> name. So in general, *dictionary* english words are not the best. >>>>>>>>>> One technique is to intentionally mispell the word you like. >>>>>>>>>> Here are >>>>>>>>>> some comparative examples (note, the surrounding quotes are >>>>>>>>>> required >>>>>>>>>> to avoid google trying to be helpful and correct the spelling)... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "maelstrom" --> 7,480,000 >>>>>>>>>> "maelstroom" --> 6,200 >>>>>>>>>> "maelstrum" --> 2,280 >>>>>>>>>> "maelstruum" --> 7 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lots of interesting other techniques can be found by searching on: >>>>>>>>>> techniques to generate brand names or domain names. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cheers -ben >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be happy to change the names to something more unique, >>>>>>>>> though it >>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>> take a few. Are you suggesting "maelstruum"? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Suggesting* yes, but the choice is yours ;) You need to own it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think maelstruum is certainly memorable with the double "u", but >>>>>>>> maybe jarring next the the "m". I'm inclined to maelstroom, since I >>>>>>>> associate it with "zoom". I wouldn't necessarily go for the >>>>>>>> absolute >>>>>>>> lowest results. I have an entirely unsubstantiated belief that >>>>>>>> anything less than 10,000 gives a reasonable chance to compete once >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> user's browsing history is taken into account. Finally you need to >>>>>>>> check existing results don't return something abhorrent (I didn't do >>>>>>>> this). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd encourage to play around testing on google search. Its quick >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> easy to generate and test alternatives. I've added a few more below. >>>>>>>> "maelstra" --> 3,560 >>>>>>>> "maelstram" --> 504 >>>>>>>> "maelstrim" --> 1200 >>>>>>>> "maelstroon" --> 58 >>>>>>>> "maelstroomi" --> 4 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> btw, I wouldn't swap the order of the "ae" since that would be >>>>>>>> susceptible to real typing errors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cheers -ben >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> > >
