Hi,
I am not quite sure where arupa is (without form), actually. I have always
thought of it as namarupa (name and form) and never before as arupa. The VM
is what deals with form/rupa and binds the names/nama of the image together,
through dynamic lookup, versus static lookup. Alive & dead.
I've never thought about the arupa of Pharo, yet I was thinking it was the
meta layers, where everything has the same amorphic form.
Perhaps the analogy starts to fall apart. My apologies...I'll try for
#random. :)
nameste,
robert
--
There are five kinds of coloring (kleshas):
1) forgetting, or ignorance about the true nature of things (avidya),
2) I-ness, individuality, or egoism (asmita),
3) attachment or addiction to mental impressions or objects (raga),
4) aversion to thought patterns or objects (dvesha), and
5) love of these as being life itself, as well as fear of their loss as
being death.
(avidya asmita raga dvesha abhinivesha pancha klesha)
On 12/27/2015 09:44 AM, Robert Withers wrote:
I was thinking about this on my drive home, more, and I think that I was
jumping the duck. #new is related to named classes, therefore in the analogy
of brahma-loka, this is more of a rupa level behavior. The arupa level is
there (and there is a #new at that level) but it deals with things that have
no form, but by name only (#allInstancesDo:).
cheers,
robert
---
And yet everything that is created does not rest in Me.
Behold My mystic opulence! Although I am the maintainer
of all living entities and although I am everywhere, I am
not a part of this cosmic manifestation, for My Self is the
very source of creation.
On 12/26/2015 08:50 PM, Robert Withers wrote:
On Dec 26, 2015, at 2:26 AM, Saša Janiška <g...@atmarama.com> wrote:
On Pet, 2015-12-25 at 15:59 -0500, Robert Withers wrote:
Hello Robert,
Good day Saša,
Welcome to Pharo! I view use of Pharo (squeak) as a knowledge
sacrifice eliminating bondage to Karma. This is not the mainstream and
a good thing too.
Nice comparison...although, being at the beginning I still do not
understand/see it as a sacrifice, but can feel it is liberating.
I suppose I think that the expenditure of time, resources, concentration and
effort constitute said sacrifice of knowledge as new broader knowledge
supplants older limited knowledge.
As an example, where is the root implementation of #new defined? Hint:
it is close to Pharo's arupa-brahma-loka, the highest planes. ;)
:-)
Well I do think the meta system is the realms of brahma-loka, and that is
split into rupa and arupa. Please let us know your thoughts on this
speculation when you find #new! :-)
Hare hare and Merry Christmas,
Haribol and Happy New Year!
Dhiyo yo nah prachodayat!
---
But those who always worship Me with exclusive devotion, meditating on My
transcendental form—to them I carry what they lack, and I preserve what they
have.
--
As a lamp in a windless place does not waver, so the transcendentalist,
whose mind is controlled, remains always steady in his meditation on the
transcendent self.
