I was not complaining about Spec, just reporting my experience with the
various UI toolkits in Pharo as a relatively newbie to this area of Pharo.
Anyway, as I wrote in my first email, I had difficulties with Spec to go
beyond building a standard interface, especially in performing text
manipulation (font size) or coloring the background of a string, or
encapsulating pieces of text in frames. I tried to understand how to do
that, but there is very little documentation on the matter, and the main
answer I got was "be prepared to use Morphic".
Trying to understand how to access the properties of the elements I
found several comments like:
[talking about font size in Spec]
On 03/10/15 09:24, stepharo wrote:
> I think that this part has been completely forgotten by spec.
> Normally the layout should take into account the size of the label
and font
> and I do not see why we could not specify the color and other
attributes we want to have but we did not work on this point.
> Now we will have to see that in the context of Brick skin.
>
> Stef
Don't get me wrong, I like Spec, it is just unclear to me if it wants to
be the default toolkit to build widgets in Pharo (in this case it should
probably access more properties of Morphic), or if wants to be
completely engine-agnostic, therefore preferring abstraction over
expressiveness.
Tommaso
On 26/06/16 23:39, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
+1 :)
Offray
On 26/06/16 02:56, stepharo wrote:
+ 1
Stef
Tommaso,
can you give some concrete examples of what it is that you wanted to
do to refine your application and that was really hard (or
impossible) to do with Spec?
As long as we do not know what is wrong, we cannot fix it.
As long as we do not know what important things are wrong, we cannot
prioritize.
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On Jun 25, 2016, at 15:54, Tommaso Dal Sasso
<tommaso.dalsa...@gmail.com <mailto:tommaso.dalsa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The beauty that I am looking for as a developer for has to do with
the code and the API. I consider important how fast I am able to
prototype a working example --in this Spec is excellent-- and how
much I can extend the code to refine my application --in this Spec
is really hard to use--.
