Your contribution to Pharo are much appreciated. And indeed you did not directly say anything negative.
But you have to agree that you often discuss about Python, C++, Blender, ... in mailing lists that are not for that purpose. You are absolutely free to do whatever you want and to give your opinions freely, but this is not the right place. > On 7 Oct 2017, at 10:42, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree, ignore that crazy dude that he is all talk and non sense excluding > the fact the original article uses a graphic he made with love for Pharo and > with over 5 years of active contribution to Pharo documentation and > libraries. OR the fact that he said nothing negative about Pharo in this > thread. > > Or the fact that he said that is enternal greatful for Pharo introducing him > to the art and fun of live coding. What's more negative than that , right ? > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Hi sven > > Do the same than me, trash this thread and let us focus on making Pharo > better. > This is far better productive and energy positive. > > Stef > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote: > > Yes, you are right: Pharo/Smalltalk is more or less the same as > > Ruby/Python/C/C++ in terms of power & flexibility of OOP and in live coding. > > > > Come on. > > > >> On 6 Oct 2017, at 23:18, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Wise not to mention Ruby and Python and Pick the worst of the worst in > >> OOP. Because frankly the competition for Pharo against those two behemoths > >> can be quite brutal in the flexibility and power of OOP. > >> > >> And no , these language can do live coding with ease. I know because I > >> currently code live coding style with Python for an app I am making. Sure > >> it wont provide you with a live system out of the box, but put in 10 lines > >> of code and you already ready to go with hardcore live coding. At least > >> Python , Ruby being practically a rip off of Smalltalk language may need > >> even less. > >> > >> iPython which by the way is by far the most popular Python tool is the > >> real deal, a full blow live coding enviroment. > >> > >> To my suprise its not even hard to do live coding with C/C++ including > >> using image format. To my shock live coding is actually supported by both > >> the OS and the hardware. Hardware has its own exception system , OS has an > >> image flie format called "memory mapped files" used for DLLs and a lot of > >> essential functionality. > >> > >> For some weird reason however its well hidden and not that much utilised > >> by coders. They really love long compile times, dont ask me why. > >> > >> But yeah C++ even though it has come a long way with its template system, > >> its still the king of ugly. That sytax, oh the horrors of that syntax..... > >> yiaks !!! > >> > >> I am so enternal greatful that Pharo introduced me to live coding and > >> opened my eyes to universe of fun and productivity. I cannot imagine > >> coding an other way ever again. > >> > >> I really hope that we take this further though. > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:31 PM horrido <horrido.hobb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk > >> <https://medium.com/smalltalk-talk/behold-pharo-the-modern-smalltalk-38e132c46053> > >> > >> If you would like to suggest some edits, I'm all ears. Anything to improve > >> the impact of the article. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >> > > > > >
