i found and installed one of these kits, and it works fine on the 10"  
LPs i have - i don't have any 12" tho.

the installation instructions are excellently written, and as i went  
through the process i felt a great connection to the writer across  
all those years.  it was a cool experience.

the directions are quite explicit about the need for a 2-spring  
motor, and altho i'm too lazy to check right now, i believe all DD  
motors were able to have a second spring barrel installed without  
modification...and that the barrel was available separately for the  
purpose of the conversion.

On May 4, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Robert Wright wrote:

> So how did Edison expect consumers to play his LP's if the LP  
> conversion
> kits only geared down the feedscrew of existing DD machines?  I  
> know DD
> springs can hold a lot, but I've never seen one play for 24 minutes  
> (roughly
> 5 DD's without winding), much less 40 (as the 12" LP's ran).  Did  
> the LP kit
> include an additional or larger spring?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug" <cdh...@earthlink.net>
>> It's simple when goven a bit of thought. Sure, you can gear down a  
>> spring
>> motor, but the governor has to run at high speed to remain reasonably
>> smooth. This means that you use up all of your spring, keeping the
> governor
>> going, while the turntable runs at slow speed. Under those  
>> conditions, a
>> long playing record will play less than half the playing time on the
>> phonograph before you run out of spring. The listener would be  
>> cranking
> the
>> motor several times before a 33 1/3 RPM disc could finish playing.  
>> That
>> wouldn't go over well with customers at all! It would explain the  
>> reason
>> that Edison used 80 RPM for his long play records. We might say  
>> that he
> had
>> half of the puzzle solved, but  he didn't go to slow playing speed  
>> because
>> it wasn't practical with a spring motor.
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