An interesting comment about re-greasing the motor. I used to to that, not
so much the last decade or so. I do oil them. I have many machines with
original grease and that's how they'll stay.
Mike
Oldcranky

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You guys are great!  What a wonderful list this is.
>
> VICTORY!  I made up a hanger bolt that was slightly larger than the motor
> board knob hole and tightened two small fender washers between two nuts on
> the machine thread end.  After screwing it in the hole, that end of the
> motor board did move up and down as I lifted the rig, but NOT the other
> side
> of the board.  It was still stuck fast.  So I used the white side of the
> rubber mallet and taped on the right, back corner of the motor board until
> the front right edge began to rise a 1/16" at a time until it was free of
> its frame.
>
> I found the motor board knob screw in the bottom of the motor case along
> with the usual 100 old needles stuck in grease on top of the horn.
>
> Thanks to everyone who offered a solution.
>
> GrnMountain Bill
>
> PS: If anyone has any of the missing items I need for this machine as
> listed
> in my first message about the motor board problem, please let me know at
> rochr...@gmail.com.
>
> Will be cleaning and re-greasing the motor.  Have always used wheel bearing
> grease.  But perhaps there is something better?
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Ron L'Herault <lhera...@bu.edu> wrote:
>
> > If you've removed two screws in the front and there are not two screws in
> > the back, then it should either be on those curved clips or have a rear
> lip
> > that locks it in place.   The missing motorboard knob is not helping.
> You
> > could try a wood screw in that hole to give you something to pull on.
>  Try
> > lubing the joints around the motorboard with lemon oil or the like too.
> > Then try a bit of gentle tapping all around the edges.
> >
> > You could work on that stuck back panel too.  Prying on its edges at
> least
> > will not show much.  Once it is off you can push upward on the motorboard
> > with something.
> >
> > The single screw you removed in the back holds the horn up to the
> cabinet.
> > If all else fails, you might be able to drop the horn completely, slide
> it
> > to the left a bit and use something to push up on the motorboard from the
> > cabinet opening for the horn.
> >
> > Ron L
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
> > On
> > Behalf Of William Zucca
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:01 AM
> > To: Antique Phonograph List
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board
> >
> > If I could verify that the motor board is on a swivel then I would place
> a
> > board lined with a felt strip on it across the BACK of the motor board
> and
> > give a few swift blows with the mallet to see if I can loosen it.
>  Perhaps
> > someone who owns an XVII can verify that the motor board swivels on a
> pivot
> > just to the rear of its center so I don't do any damage.
> >
> > GrnMountain Bill
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM, john robles <john9...@pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > SOunds like a case of simple warpage and wood swelling then...
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:52 PM
> > >
> > > John:  Yes, everything have been removed from the motor board and
> frame.
> > > Only the motor screws remain. I even tried tapping with rubber mallet
> to
> > > see
> > > if there would be any movement.  But there is none.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the picture.
> > >
> > > GrnMountain Bill
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:35 PM, john robles <john9...@pacbell.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did you remove the turntable and reposition the automatic stop yoke?
> > This
> > > > is often the culprit, because the two arms of the stop yoke overlap
> > form
> > > the
> > > > motorboard to the motorboard frame. Check this link to a photo of
> what
> > I
> > > > mean. The yoke is circled in white.
> > > > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com>
> > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board
> > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:04 PM
> > > >
> > > > Dear Phono-Lers:
> > > >
> > > > I recently acquired a Victrola VV-XVII.  It is pretty nice machine
> but
> > is
> > > > missing the crank, needle cup, motor board knob, and one large
> storage
> > > door
> > > > knob.................
> > > >
> > > > ANYWAY...............
> > > >
> > > > After removing the screws that hold down the motor board (two in the
> > > front
> > > > and perhaps a third in the rear center just in from the tonearm
> > bracket),
> > > I
> > > > have been unable to get the board to either swivel on a pivot or come
> > up
> > > > out
> > > > of the top of the machine!  What am I doing wrong?  There is no
> > movement
> > > of
> > > > the motor board in any direction.  It is stuck tight.  Any
> suggestions
> > > > about
> > > > how to remove it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On the back of the machine there is a panel that seems to be held in
> > with
> > > > two brass screws on its bottom edge and also has two "acorn" wooden
> > plugs
> > > > at
> > > > the top.  I removed all of these and this panel too is stuck fast!
> >  What
> > > is
> > > > going on?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > GrnMountain Bill
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