An interesting comment about re-greasing the motor. I used to to that, not so much the last decade or so. I do oil them. I have many machines with original grease and that's how they'll stay. Mike Oldcranky
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> wrote: > You guys are great! What a wonderful list this is. > > VICTORY! I made up a hanger bolt that was slightly larger than the motor > board knob hole and tightened two small fender washers between two nuts on > the machine thread end. After screwing it in the hole, that end of the > motor board did move up and down as I lifted the rig, but NOT the other > side > of the board. It was still stuck fast. So I used the white side of the > rubber mallet and taped on the right, back corner of the motor board until > the front right edge began to rise a 1/16" at a time until it was free of > its frame. > > I found the motor board knob screw in the bottom of the motor case along > with the usual 100 old needles stuck in grease on top of the horn. > > Thanks to everyone who offered a solution. > > GrnMountain Bill > > PS: If anyone has any of the missing items I need for this machine as > listed > in my first message about the motor board problem, please let me know at > rochr...@gmail.com. > > Will be cleaning and re-greasing the motor. Have always used wheel bearing > grease. But perhaps there is something better? > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Ron L'Herault <lhera...@bu.edu> wrote: > > > If you've removed two screws in the front and there are not two screws in > > the back, then it should either be on those curved clips or have a rear > lip > > that locks it in place. The missing motorboard knob is not helping. > You > > could try a wood screw in that hole to give you something to pull on. > Try > > lubing the joints around the motorboard with lemon oil or the like too. > > Then try a bit of gentle tapping all around the edges. > > > > You could work on that stuck back panel too. Prying on its edges at > least > > will not show much. Once it is off you can push upward on the motorboard > > with something. > > > > The single screw you removed in the back holds the horn up to the > cabinet. > > If all else fails, you might be able to drop the horn completely, slide > it > > to the left a bit and use something to push up on the motorboard from the > > cabinet opening for the horn. > > > > Ron L > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > > On > > Behalf Of William Zucca > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:01 AM > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board > > > > If I could verify that the motor board is on a swivel then I would place > a > > board lined with a felt strip on it across the BACK of the motor board > and > > give a few swift blows with the mallet to see if I can loosen it. > Perhaps > > someone who owns an XVII can verify that the motor board swivels on a > pivot > > just to the rear of its center so I don't do any damage. > > > > GrnMountain Bill > > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM, john robles <john9...@pacbell.net> > > wrote: > > > > > SOunds like a case of simple warpage and wood swelling then... > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > From: William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:52 PM > > > > > > John: Yes, everything have been removed from the motor board and > frame. > > > Only the motor screws remain. I even tried tapping with rubber mallet > to > > > see > > > if there would be any movement. But there is none. > > > > > > Thanks for the picture. > > > > > > GrnMountain Bill > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:35 PM, john robles <john9...@pacbell.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Did you remove the turntable and reposition the automatic stop yoke? > > This > > > > is often the culprit, because the two arms of the stop yoke overlap > > form > > > the > > > > motorboard to the motorboard frame. Check this link to a photo of > what > > I > > > > mean. The yoke is circled in white. > > > > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ > > > > John Robles > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > From: William Zucca <rochr...@gmail.com> > > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:04 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Phono-Lers: > > > > > > > > I recently acquired a Victrola VV-XVII. It is pretty nice machine > but > > is > > > > missing the crank, needle cup, motor board knob, and one large > storage > > > door > > > > knob................. > > > > > > > > ANYWAY............... > > > > > > > > After removing the screws that hold down the motor board (two in the > > > front > > > > and perhaps a third in the rear center just in from the tonearm > > bracket), > > > I > > > > have been unable to get the board to either swivel on a pivot or come > > up > > > > out > > > > of the top of the machine! What am I doing wrong? There is no > > movement > > > of > > > > the motor board in any direction. It is stuck tight. Any > suggestions > > > > about > > > > how to remove it? > > > > > > > > > > > > On the back of the machine there is a panel that seems to be held in > > with > > > > two brass screws on its bottom edge and also has two "acorn" wooden > > plugs > > > > at > > > > the top. I removed all of these and this panel too is stuck fast! > > What > > > is > > > > going on? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > GrnMountain Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org