I tend to agree about the fact that in Open Source people often spend more time on politics rather than developing.
Imagine a company office where the programmers get paid per hour while spending tons of time at the round table of a meeting room throwing into each other what they like better and why. In open source this happens a lot. But, at the same time, I think that closing a developers list does not really solve this issue. What about let the developers subscribe to the list in read-only mode so we all get updated on what's going on with PHP5. Or simply open the list completely and ignore the messages from those who you don't consider active PHP5 contributors. That would probably be more correct. -- Maxim Maletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... : > Ok, I can't be bothered to fight a mailing list that was supposed to trim > down endless discussions. I'm not the one that asked for the list, but I > definitely supported it, as unlike most of the members on this list, I > remember the pre-v4 days, and what kind of mountains we had to push in > order to get it released half a year after it was ready. But as you said, > no matter what valid reasons there are for having this list, we got to a > situation where the fuzzy feeling will always outweigh the logic, and > nobody will ever be able to persuade anybody otherwise. Whatever, let's > end the list. > > Piotr - we'll call back mid 2005! > > Zeev > > At 19:31 23/01/2003, Dan Kalowsky wrote: > >Then discontinue it. End of discussion. > > > >This is an open source project, and I see little to no-advantage to it's > >use outside of creating a rather vile aftertaste in the mouths of those > >developers who are not "invited". > > > >I've heard the arguments for the list, and I can only say they are valid > >reasons. But you're now making PHP a political project rather than a > >software project. Thanks. This is the sort of thing I don't want to have > >to deal with in my personal time. If you want a private list, take PHP > >out of the Open Source. If you want to cut down on the signal/noise ratio > >then moderate the list, but don't make it private and invite only. > > > >Zeev no matter how you see it or say it, the inclusion of members into a > >"private" mailing list is an exclusive ranking. You may claim otherwise, > >but all such claims by members of such group will more than likely be > >disregarded. > > > > > > > >On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 11:38 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > > >>I had nothing to do with that limited php5 list. I thought that was > >>completely bogus myself and argued against it. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------< > >Dan Kalowsky "Cause fear is strong and love's > >http://www.deadmime.org/~dank for everyone, who isn't me." > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Burden In My Hand", > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Soundgarden > > > > > >-- > >PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > >To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > -- > PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
