Hey, Michael. I don't intend to further this discussion, but I'd like to reply to Paul's last post.
>> Indeed, since not everyone here agrees that my speech was objectionable, perhaps you can say specifically (in reference to the many points you raised) what you would have *liked* me to have said instead of what I *actually* said. That would probably be the best indicator of your desires. > >None of the complainants has yet volunteered how they would modify my messages (as linked in Larry Garfield's points-of-complaint) to make my words conform to their sensibilities regarding "tone." Paul, in the few examples I presented in this thread, I don't think any suggestion is necessary, at all. But to prevent you from repeating this as a valid argument, I'll forward my suggestions. 1. > You know, you're right -- maybe I should try being the driving force behind roughly half the PSRs produced by this group instead. > > (/me shrugs) <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/RwFMv1NokBQ/7XPPLEDJDwAJ>: You could've said nothing at all, or you could've said something along the lines of "I don't agree I'm not a constructive member". "/me shrugs" was just plain childish. 2. > I have been remarkably restrained in my commentary. However, if you want to keep poking at it, I can become less restrained. Your call. <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/RwFMv1NokBQ/Mkna9CLJDwAJ> You could've very well stopped at "I've been restrained in my commentary". No need to threaten people with unprofessionalism. 3. > /me shrugs <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/RwFMv1NokBQ/sfe47DfJDwAJ> This was just unnecessary. No need to send an entire email with a sarcastic remark. 4. > I agree. Be sure to tell that to Phil Sturgeon, who has been insulting to me on this list, on Twitter (where he tweets bravely about me from behind a block), on Reddit, on his website, on his podcast, and goodness knows where else. <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/RwFMv1NokBQ/XKGfyjDDDwAJ> There was just no need to discuss your fight with Phil in this thread. 5. > It is that if you're going to call "people" out for bad behavior, be sure to call out Phil, who is far more deserving of it. <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/RwFMv1NokBQ/MWpxepLIDwAJ> There was just no need to keep on discussing your fight with Phil in this thread. 6. > And thank goodness for that. <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/RwFMv1NokBQ/tdXoFNvIDwAJ> Third email within the same thread discussing "it's phil's fault". 7. >... in his usual fashion. You know how I like consistency, Phil; thank you for always being a drama queen. > >Besides, I thought you left? (/me shrugs) <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/cjLBp2weYaA/up8nw9fXDQAJ> Calling Phil a "drama queen". I don't have any advice here, if you think this was really necessary within a FIG thread, I don't think we'll agree on much. Also, what exactly is "/me shrugs" going to contribute to the discussion? There you go. That's MY advice. Em sexta-feira, 22 de julho de 2016 16:11:25 UTC-3, Michael Cullum escreveu: > > Okay, thanks Paul for your response. I will put this to a vote on Tuesday; > currently I am at a conference in Barcelona and Samantha is on php[cruise] > so our availability and access is limited. If anyone wishes to make any > closing remarks, you are welcome to do so before then, but I'd ask that > responses are limited to closing remarks, not further discussion. > > Thanks, > Michael > > On 22 Jul 2016 8:15 p.m., "'Brian Teeman' via PHP Framework > Interoperability Group" <php...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote: > >> It seems quite clear that pmj wants to force this to a vote. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to php-fig+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to php...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/55b1fb22-feb7-49dd-a66c-ba9f0da4aea1%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/55b1fb22-feb7-49dd-a66c-ba9f0da4aea1%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/507686f6-9c66-4c18-a01d-6db5c811d930%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
