Hi all, > On Aug 9, 2016, at 11:54, Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote: > > But FIG can and should evolve along with PHP. We've done it before. The FIG > of 2009 is not at all what we are today.
To be clear, those changes were not the result of "evolution" in any natural sense. Those changes are the result of "people writing specific rules with specific goals in mind" (i.e., "creationism"). I assert that those creations have not always been for the better. > When the entirely cowboy-free-for-all way of working on specs broke down, we > changed the process and added more formality. (FIG 2.0, which added the > formal Editor, Sponsor, and Coordinator.) I think "broke down" qualifies as an overstatement. I recall that Phil Sturgeon's impatience got the better of him during the discussions over my work on what would become known as PSR-4, which drove the building of the workflow bylaw. (I find that somewhat amusing, since Phil was caused the first cancelled vote on that PSR by editing the text under vote, and he himself pulled the vote again a second time later after the workflow bylaw was in place.) So the only thing that "broke down" were some of the participants, not the process. Larry probably remembers the writing of the bylaw, since he was part of it, as was I. Here's one related link: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/php-fig/qHOrincccWk/rra3DpRD9f4J That's not "breaking down" so much as "someone pushing a change." I recall being mostly OK with the state of the PSR process before that, but memories do fade. -- Paul M. Jones http://paul-m-jones.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/4E5B845F-D927-4D4F-9E68-13B072267B12%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.