Antonello Cruz writes:
> Volker A. Brandt wrote:
> > Antonello Cruz writes:
> >> Volker A. Brandt wrote:
> >>> Maybe a quick fix could be to enhance SMF with an additional state:
> >>>
> >>>   legacy_run, disabled, maintenance, online, package
> >>>
> >>> And give "svcs" a "-t <type>" switch with a behavior similar to
> >>> "zfs list -t snapshot".
> >>>
> >>> So "svcs -t package" would list those services, but "svcs -a" would not.
> >> That would break the meaning of svcs -a The -a means "Show all
> >> services".
> >
> > Yes.  That was intentional.  Like "zfs list" which will show all
> > objects except snapshots.  They are hidden until you specify the
> > type snapshot as an option to the list argument.
> Are you aware that 'svcs' (with no options), just as 'zfs list' shows
> only the 'default interesting' services? The ones that are enabled (not
> necessarily running).

Yes.

> >> I don't agree
> >> this is a problem. What are you trying to accomplish that you need to
> >> use svcs -a and the output of the services used by pkg(5) gets in the way?
> >
> > Reduce clutter.  Protect the admin from seeing things that look like
> > services but really are metainformation storage containers for packaged
> > objects.
> Using your analogy, what you're proposing is that 'zfs list -t all'
> should display a subset of the datasets.

No.  "zfs list" shows everything except snapshots, "zfs list -t snapshot"
will show only snapshots, and "zfs list -t all" shows everything.

> Why just 'svcs' (with no options) is not enough to reduce clutter?

If there is a new service state, and "svcs" whithout options will not
display any service in this state, clutter would indeed be reduced.


Regards -- Volker
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