On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: >> >> Hi everyone, >> every now and then, distributions approach us asking which >> applications they should ship by default with Plasma, or they complain >> about us not providing such information. >> Although the Plasma team of course does not have to provide such >> information, it may still be helpful also for us because we can try to >> make sure that these applications work well in Plasma. >> Choosing such applications is not an easy task, but to get things >> started, a group of people who were stranded in Bielefeld waiting for >> their trains after a meeting sat together to come up with an initial >> suggestion. Here is the result: >> >> File manager: Dolphin >> Music player: Cantata > > > I think Cantata is unsuited as it requires an mpd running. Given that it's > out of scope for simple usage. > >> Video player: VLC >> Document viewer: Okular > > > Here we need to be careful given that there is no release based on Qt 5 > (note that some distros ship with it but master has a terrible and annoying > warning in your face dialog about that) and Qt 4 is EOL. Given that viewing > pdfs is something which has been exploited in the past and is network > attackable in worst case, I think it's not a good choice. As long as there > is no Qt5-maintained release I would say it needs to be evince or none.
That's absurd, if anything we can say it's none and set it as a priority to have Okular ported. >> Software center: Discover >> Communication: Konversation, KDE Telepathy (cautiously, because while >> it works well at the moment, it is also looking for a maintainer) >> Password storage: KWalletmanager, kwallet-pam > > > While KWalletmanager gives a good integration in some KDE applications it's > nothing I would recommend as a wallet manager. It is not well integrated > into Plasma, it is not secure, it has a terrible first run experience with > recommending to use a GPG key and then telling you that you don't have one > and does not have any concept of synchronization. In the area of password > storage there are way better solutions available in the FLOSS world > >> Hardware support: Skanlite, Print manager >> Utilities/system tools: KCalc, KDE Connect, Konsole, KSysguard, Kate, >> Kamoso (if a distro wants to ship a webcam app at all) >> Office suite: We do not recommend one at the moment >> Pim suite: We do not recommend one at the moment. >> Browser: We do not recommend one at the moment > > > for browser I would turn the recommendation the other way: let's explicitly > recommend to not use any of the Qt browsers. That's just negative speech, not something we want to be responsible for. I'm sure KDE could have a good web browser. >> If an applicaiton does not show up in this list, this does of course >> not mean we don't like the application or the team behind it, it just >> means that we _currently_ don't feel confident to recommend it to >> users. >> >> This is our initial proposal, now we'd like to get the input from the >> rest of the Plasma team! > > > Thanks for starting that thread, very important Let's remember that communicating is important. Team building is important. Community building is important. Aleix _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel