Um, it’s not a fascination. It’s hard facts seen by live examples. Besides Bill 
Gates, who is the largestest farm land owner in the US: China (by way of many 
holding companies). Who now manufactures most of the electronics seen in 
everyday life. Again, China. Those are just 2 prime examples. Oh yeah, and 
where do many of the cyber attacks seem to originate from (other than Russia, 
North Korea, Ukraine, The Middle East or the Gold Coast of Africa)? Yep, China. 
Lastly, who is responsible for nearly $140 billion in annual forced technology 
transfers (by way of company buyouts, hostile takeovers or industrial 
espionage)? Um, China. Btw, these are all proven and verifiable facts.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data acquisition and 
verification Dept.


> On Jul 28, 2021, at 1:13 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss 
> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> 
> Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 22:53:09 -0700
> 
>> So, guys, nice little debate we all got snagged into here because of
>> some state regulations that would prevent nearly 60 million people
>> from owning technologies that would make their lives more convenient.
>> Regulations put in place by politicians who know nothing of real
>> science and are trying to kiss up to china. Now, where does that leave
>> us?
> 
> It leaves us with 60 million people who can't game quite as hard. Boo
> hoo hoo. 
> 
> What's this fascination with China that you all have? China uses the
> energy equivalent of 27,018 million barrels of oil for 1394 million
> people, equalling 19.4 barrels per person. The US uses the equivalent of
> 18,684 million barrels and has 328 million people, equaling 56.9
> barrels per person.
> 
> So here's the question: If some country using almost triple the energy
> per person than your country says *you* are the problem and should cut,
> and they won't do squat until you cut, what would you say to them? 
> 
> You ask where it leaves us. Hey, if you're 60 years old, it leaves you
> having lived a pretty fun life. If you're 20 years old, it leaves you
> with a very hard (and probably considerably foreshortened) second half
> of your life. If you were just born today, by the time you graduate
> college, the world will be rife with climate refugees and water wars,
> and by the time you're 50, if you last that long, the population
> decline will be brutal and pretty universal except for the very rich.
> All because everybody in 2021 said the other guy should cut his
> emissions first.
> 
> One more thing: Some friends of mine ran the numbers and according to
> them the California computer energy standards aren't as strict as those
> of the EU.
> 
> I feel not a bit of sorrow for the 60 million potential gamers who play
> at a slight disadvantage, if they play at all. I feel sorry for their
> grandchildren.
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt 
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