One of the things that scares me, and there are a few when it comes to China, is most of my pharmaceuticals are made in China. When China finally becomes extremely hostile towards the US what happens then?

We need to start moving manufacturing back to the US. It is a matter of national security. And we need to become energy independent as we were just a few month ago.



On 2021-07-28 09:49, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Um, it’s not a fascination. It’s hard facts seen by live examples.
Besides Bill Gates, who is the largestest farm land owner in the US:
China (by way of many holding companies). Who now manufactures most of
the electronics seen in everyday life. Again, China. Those are just 2
prime examples. Oh yeah, and where do many of the cyber attacks seem
to originate from (other than Russia, North Korea, Ukraine, The Middle
East or the Gold Coast of Africa)? Yep, China. Lastly, who is
responsible for nearly $140 billion in annual forced technology
transfers (by way of company buyouts, hostile takeovers or industrial
espionage)? Um, China. Btw, these are all proven and verifiable facts.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data acquisition and
verification Dept.


On Jul 28, 2021, at 1:13 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 22:53:09 -0700

So, guys, nice little debate we all got snagged into here because of
some state regulations that would prevent nearly 60 million people
from owning technologies that would make their lives more convenient.
Regulations put in place by politicians who know nothing of real
science and are trying to kiss up to china. Now, where does that leave
us?

It leaves us with 60 million people who can't game quite as hard. Boo
hoo hoo.

What's this fascination with China that you all have? China uses the
energy equivalent of 27,018 million barrels of oil for 1394 million
people, equalling 19.4 barrels per person. The US uses the equivalent of
18,684 million barrels and has 328 million people, equaling 56.9
barrels per person.

So here's the question: If some country using almost triple the energy
per person than your country says *you* are the problem and should cut,
and they won't do squat until you cut, what would you say to them?

You ask where it leaves us. Hey, if you're 60 years old, it leaves you
having lived a pretty fun life. If you're 20 years old, it leaves you
with a very hard (and probably considerably foreshortened) second half
of your life. If you were just born today, by the time you graduate
college, the world will be rife with climate refugees and water wars,
and by the time you're 50, if you last that long, the population
decline will be brutal and pretty universal except for the very rich.
All because everybody in 2021 said the other guy should cut his
emissions first.

One more thing: Some friends of mine ran the numbers and according to
them the California computer energy standards aren't as strict as those
of the EU.

I feel not a bit of sorrow for the 60 million potential gamers who play
at a slight disadvantage, if they play at all. I feel sorry for their
grandchildren.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful
Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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