Yes, However, California is also in the midst of a cyclic drought (tree ring studies going back nearly 1k years proves this).
Also, California has one of the longest coastlines of any state. One last item, how is it that much of the intermountain west (which has many thousands of square miles of desert be cooler than California on Average? In point of fact, Arizona often sees higher average tempuratures each summer and is one of the few states that see consistently more than 140 days a year above 100 F. We are also in the midst of a long period drought that started in the middle 1980’s and is continuing. This mirrors the previous dry period that started roughly 1,000 years ago and lasted some 550 years with a 50 year long mega drought near it’s beginning some 980 years ago. Now, as for carbon footprint, those wind turbines take an enormous amount of fossil fuels to create, from the high precision machined bearings to the blades that are manufactured with materials that are, buy their very nature, not recyclable. They are also very inefficient (lower than a typical comparable solar facility with an average of 30% efficiency directly converting light to energy. Those very solar facilities use panels that are made with highly toxic materials (such as cadmium, lead, and selenium among other heavy metals).much of the panels are manufactured in china, by workers who are either slave labor or poorly paid wage slaves, working in conditions that we don’t allow here. The same materials and technologies exist in the very computer systems you and I use for emails like this and also are the very same systems we use to run Linux on. So, we can all either sit here and pontificate upon all of this or actually take some viable action. The question then becomes, how much of this technology are you willing to live without? I know I certainly can’t if I want to be able to read my printed mail (not possible for a totally blind individual without technology to convert text to speech). How about keeping my place cool with a swamp cooler that uses an actual scientific advance called Phase duration modulation in order to regulate motor speed and reduce current usage. Air conditioning would be nice, but costs too much to run. Also, without all this tech, paying the bills would take considerably longer, ordering things for delivery would require a printed catalogue and a telephone. Want to do without technology, say goodbye to your smart device, big flat screen and various other gadgets. How much tech does the grocery business require? Getting that food from the farm to the shelf requires a lot more than you think. Scanners in the store to take and update inventory, computers to manage the databases generated by all that data, network connections to corporate HQ’s, programs to determine best allocation of food based on sales, etc. Communication with the distributors to best transport those goods (right along with keeping track of them, databases, etc, rolling stock, employees, and many other factors). Distributors also must be able to communicate with producers to see what they have available, etc. So, while folks are contemplating how California will deal with their own problems, everyone should be looking 5,000 miles further west at the source of many of the political mumbo jumbo, environmental pollution and even materials rationing. Yep, China. The biggest offender on the planet who gives 2 cents in care to anyone who would object (about the cost of the bullet they would use to terminate your complaints). China, who uses enough fossil fuels to manufacture, produce and ship products and energy. China, who is also the largest producer of toxic metal pollution, plastic pollution in the oceans and worst offender of human rights on the planet. And yeah, they are also the ones who produced the very virus that was leaked to the world and caused almost 19 months of economic and health chaos. The very same China with a political machine that has been influencing many on our side of the pacific to buy into policies designed to break us and make us easy for hostile takeover. So, while we are all distracted with EV’s, solar panels, wind generators and sustainable tech, they are keeping their eyes on the prize and seeking to control much of the planet. So, guys, nice little debate we all got snagged into here because of some state regulations that would prevent nearly 60 million people from owning technologies that would make their lives more convenient. Regulations put in place by politicians who know nothing of real science and are trying to kiss up to china. Now, where does that leave us? -Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Ministry of facts. > On Jul 27, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 21:22:33 -0700 > >> It is also interesting that those very same states that push EV’s also >> have not upgraded their power systems in quite some time. California >> is the leader on this list of shame with rolling blackouts and >> brownouts each summer. > > I think this is unfair to California. Much of California is the hottest > in the US. Greenhouse gasses are created by everyone, but California > can least afford to gain a degree. California is also the most > populous state in the nation. So in spite of EV's and all their other > moves to limit environmental damage, they can't reduce the heat that > radiates or blows into California, so they can't keep all their > citizens' houses below 85 Fahrenheit. Hence the rolling blackouts. > >> They also want to put up more windmills, off >> shore! Talk about throwing good money after bad and causing those of >> us with computers that are capable of running linux no end of trouble. > > I'm not sure how windmills cause havoc with Linux. I thought that was > done by Microsoft. > > California could sure use more fission reactors, but in a place where > 7+ earthquakes are frequent, doing so is just too likely to cause > another Chernobyl. Plus, anything near the coast is likely to go > Fukushima with a tsunami. They don't have a river capable of generating > huge power from its current. They can't import from surrounding states, > and back in the day, when they imported from Texas, the Texan power > companies stiffed California's power grid in order to make a bigger > profit. > > So, other than solar, wind and conservation, I don't see what other > options California has. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful > Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
