On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:36:34 -0800 (PST), cj pangilinan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > where in philcoa is that? Sessinet in Dilimall =) It's on the second floor of Dilimall. It is across Red Fox (the photo shop). It's the net cafe with extra study tables so students can study/do their homework while waiting their turn in the net cafe.
They currently use Firefox as the default browser but they have had customers who want IE. They plan to use Open Office soon. And after a while use Linux for their OS =) One of the computers in the shop is currently dual boot Windows XP and Debian Sarge. > > --- clair ching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:31:18 +0800, Peter Santiago > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Miguel A Paraz wrote: > > > > I think this is an important topic. How's the > > local Linux economy and > > > > are we ready to take on more outsourcing jobs > > for Linux and F/OSS? > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > I still don't think we're able to handle some > > big-time outsourcing of > > > Linux jobs. I doubt DTI would have data regarding > > this. You can > > > probably ask Q-Linux though. > > > > > > 1. We're still Windows-centric here. > > > > I think that people are used to the convenience of > > just having to > > install M$ stuff because "everyone" has been using > > it for a while now. > > Imagine having to re-learn some things. My mom > > hates re-learning > > things especially those related to computers and > > apps. It's been > > tough for me and my sister to handle her attitude > > towards learning to > > use some apps on MS Windows and with certain > > differences in Linux > > based apps... Well, that will be quite interesting. > > > > > 2. Linux users in the Philippines is still > > limited, due to the > > > conception that opensource is not as good as > > closed-source. Although > > > this is gradually changing, the growth is still > > very slow. > > It's a cultural thing, methinks. I have heard > > people say, "If it's > > that expensive, it has to be good." And so some > > people think that the > > open source is not that good. One thing that makes > > people wary to use > > it is because it's free in more than one sense of > > the word. > > > > > 3. A lot of CS students don't have the patience > > to learn Linux, > > I was in UP when Nemenzo started implementing the > > policy on using open > > source apps. And this was true then. To mention > > Linux in class was > > even worse in some cases. I took up certain > > electives and we had an > > introduction to Linux. My classmates' reactions > > were quite varied but > > most of them dreaded having to hear it, much more > > deal with the > > change. > > > > > probably this is also due to lack of competent > > instructors. If you'd > > Maybe that is another hindrance that is to be > > overcome. > > > > > notice, most of the thesis made are based on > > Windows GUI programming. > > > > > 4. On the corporate side, moving to opensource is > > considered risky. In > > > short, there is no one vendor to pin the blame on > > if anything goes > > > wrong. ^_^ > > They think of migration, training people, etc. aside > > from whatever > > they have to do when things go wrong. However, I > > think that the open > > source community is wonderful because people help > > out each other when > > things go wrong. Besides, I see that maintainers > > are updating people > > on forums and mailing lists, etc. so there shouldn't > > be much > > difficulty with that. :) > > > > > > > > There are still a lot of factors that is involved > > in this problem. > > > Well, there's the bayanihan project sponsored by > > DTI. But that's just > > > lip service by the government. Fortunately some > > large Philippine > > > companies are taking the initiative to > > implement/integrate opensource > > > software into their systems, like Rustans's > > Shopwise, SM's supermarket > > > (not too sure). It's a small start, but it's > > better than nothing. > > > > Maybe we should be more active in promoting > > initiatives with regards > > to the usage of open source software ;) > > Incidentally, I was in SM > > Carpark's Cyberone yesterday. One of the shops had a > > sign on their > > walls which said that they install only Linux and > > Star Office. There > > is a net cafe in Philcoa that plans to shift to open > > source soon. > > > > > > > > -- > > > Peter Santiago [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > My website: www.psinergybbs.com > > > My spamtrap address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > > > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > > > [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) > > > Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph > > > Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph > > > . > > > To leave, go to > > http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > . > > > Are you a Linux newbie? 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