You can just split the cost with other people. $17.54 a U. Might go up if
you put in enough equipment to need custom power or something.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 3:05 PM Ben Koenig <techkoe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Running a physical server has advantages in all areas. Randall didn't
> actually mention his use case. Does anyone know of any such services in the
> area?
>
> It could be anything from security, government regulations, performance,
> and even education. Don't assume you know what he is looking for without
> even asking. I would also like to know if there are any local COLO options.
> Mostly because of my interest in OS configurations. For me personally, I'd
> rather have control of my server OS from an education and hobby
> perspective. How much I spend on my hobby or business is my responsibility.
>
>
> Those virtual servers you are so excited about run on physical hardware. At
> the end of the day SOMEONE has to run bare metal. Or we can have a moment
> of silence for all the docker containers that will vanish when the world's
> last server fails to POST.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Daniel Johnson <tekno...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 1:50 PM Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.li...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have heard that security versus physical HW in colo argument so many
> > > times.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, a padlock is way less secure than well implemented
> crypto.
> > >
> > > The only security benefit I see from physical HW would be hosting it on
> > > premises - if your threat vector is suponea. Both VM or HW in colo can
> be
> > > legally accessed without your knowledge, which shouldn't be possible
> when
> > > hosting on premises.
> > >
> > > Cost or special snowflake HW would be another consideration. If one
> gets
> > to
> > > rent 15U for $300 a month and if you can fully utilize that volume -
> you
> > > could save considerable $$ in certain load scenarios.
> > >
> > > Just my thoughts on possible value of real HW outside mainstream and
> > > home/office.
> > >
> > > Tomas
> > >
> > >
> > > If you want a cheap
> >
> > subpoena resistant setup.
> > >
> >
> > https://github.com/privacylabs/oasis
> > >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 12:41 PM Louis Kowolowski <
> lou...@cryptomonkeys.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Jun 18, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Michael Rasmussen <
> > mich...@michaelsnet.us
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To stress "As others have suggested, you may be able to use a VM" -
> > at
> > > > my final job before retirement (Large bank, Fortune 500, etc)
> > everything
> > > > possible was migrated to in-house VMs.
> > > > > I want to say mail services were an early migration. In any case,
> the
> > > > entire mail infrastructure was run on virtual servers.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's no need for a physical server.
> > > > >
> > > > This is your opinion. We're not trying to determine if a VM is
> capable
> > of
> > > > running *a* mail server. We're trying to determine what the
> > requirements
> > > of
> > > > *his* mail server are, because that drives whether a physical server
> is
> > > > required.
> > > >
> > > > There may be a security requirement such as "no AES key leakage to
> > other
> > > > tenants". In this case, he may not be able to use a VM. There are
> > people
> > > in
> > > > the crypto community who believe that any system that needs secure
> > crypto
> > > > should not be virtualized.
> > > >
> > > > Again, I'm trying to gather what the requirements are before stating
> > what
> > > > the solution is.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Louis Kowolowski
> > lou...@cryptomonkeys.org
> > > > Cryptomonkeys:
> > > > http://www.cryptomonkeys.com/
> > > >
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