Any carrier is going to say that in their contract fine print, it's like the 
55Mph speed limit.  Nobody expects to be pulled over at 56Mph but they have 
found it useful to define a limit so that when they pull you over at 80Mph 
people don't argue with them.

The MVNO's define an arbitrary limit like 50GB so that when they have a user 
trying to pull 5TB data a month they can curtail them down and when the user 
starts screaming "unlimited" that they have some legalese to point to and tell 
them to pound sand.  You have to actually USE the service to see what their 
actual data cap is.  But Verizon is going to do this also, they will just have 
different contract language like "best effort delivery" and if you go into 
their high users they will start screwing with your connection to encourage you 
to go away or cut back.

There's plenty of sites out there that discuss this.  I don't know if 
dslreports.com is still going but that was the big one when I was administering 
an ISP

Trust me there is NO SUCH THING as true "unlimited data" from an Internet 
Service Provider on a broadband connection.

I DON'T use a cell plan for my primary Internet connection so that is why I use 
the cheapest tier capped service on my cell.  I don't need any higher data than 
that on my cell because I don't use tethering as my primary Internet 
connection, so cost savings on the phone is more important than high data 
amounts.

The main point I have tried to make is that you can save money by understanding 
how these data services work and matching the service you buy with your needs.

The Consumer Cellular plans are all geared to older people, they sell a LOT of 
flip phones for example but I can tell you from experience if you call their 
tech support you usually get an immediate answer from a tech who actually knows 
his ass from a hole in the ground.  They also advertise heavily in AARP and 
places like that.  So you have a service that's geared to older people's needs. 
 Older people usually don't have high data needs, but have high hand-holding 
and support costs and you have to spend a lot of money marketing and 
advertising to them.  And usually they don't have a lot of money.  So, that 
MVNO is designed to make money that way, they spend a lot of money on soft 
costs like support labor and advertising and less on data.

For a techy person who just wants a lot of data at cheaper prices, you go for 
some MVNO that spends less on advertising that nobody has heard of and there's 
no phone support worth having from them it's all online chatting and email. 
They spend more on data than CC does and their REAL caps are higher.

If you are going to eschew land lines and you need to pull a lot of data over 
mobile then possibly Verizon or ATT with their higher costs and "family plans" 
might be better than an MVNO.  They run a network of stores so if your ONLY 
internet connection is via a phone or over their cell network then you can run 
into one of their stores when you dunk your phone in the toilet by accident and 
slap down your money and get a replacement immediately instead of calling 
someone and waiting a week for a new phone in the mail. 

My daughter is 150 miles away at college, she is a full time student and makes 
no money, I have to pay for her cell phone.  If she breaks her phone she can't 
be waiting 2 weeks for me to mess around getting her a replacement I have to be 
able to tell her to walk into the Verizon store and slap down her broken phone 
and walk out with a working phone.  That's why her phone is NOT on my Comcast 
account at $17 a month it's a $50 a month Verizon account.  She uses less data 
and voice than I do.  So I am paying for that dude standing in the Verizon 
store handing out sim cards all day not for her data, you see, and if she is 
responsible enough not to break her phone I may NEVER make use of the money I'm 
paying him. 

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Russell Senior
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 6:00 PM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Verizon towers for internet
Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]> writes:

> Consumer Cellular is $20 a month with 1GB $50 a month unlimited.

>From https://www.consumercellular.com/shopping/choose/plan:

"On unlimited data plans, access to high speed data may be reduced after 50GB 
of use, and you may experience slower speeds for the remainder of your billing 
cycle."


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